Comments on: Portuguese Police, Arguidos and the McCanns http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns Offending everybody since 2006 Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:22:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-7689 Bock Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:55:02 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-7689 No, Sara. The child is missing because somebody took her away. No, Sara. The child is missing because somebody took her away.

]]> By: sara http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-7684 sara Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:07:44 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-7684 chid is missing because her parents leave her alone. They don't know how world is dangerous nowadays?so...I know and I will never let my kids alone, specially with a open window and in a country I don't know.For me,they must be charged for negligence. chid is missing because her parents leave her alone. They don’t know how world is dangerous nowadays?so…I know and I will never let my kids alone, specially with a open window and in a country I don’t know.For me,they must be charged for negligence.

]]> By: TheDailyMagnet http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4805 TheDailyMagnet Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:12:20 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4805 Men might be different, but I think Annie that you'd be surprised at the extent of swelling that can occur in women and children, particularly if there are fractures and if there's no treatment for the swelling in the hours after the injuries. The bruising alone is severe enough for that degree of swelling. There seems to be a lot of violence by male police towards women being shown in the media lately. I think you've raised a valid concern over the way the case has been handled, and one would have to ask why the police only hopped on board after the McCanns began suing the newspaper that alleged they were the killers. Men might be different, but I think Annie that you’d be surprised at the extent of swelling that can occur in women and children, particularly if there are fractures and if there’s no treatment for the swelling in the hours after the injuries. The bruising alone is severe enough for that degree of swelling.

There seems to be a lot of violence by male police towards women being shown in the media lately.

I think you’ve raised a valid concern over the way the case has been handled, and one would have to ask why the police only hopped on board after the McCanns began suing the newspaper that alleged they were the killers.

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4708 Bock Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:24:35 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4708 Fiver: Sorry, but you're factually wrong. The child isn't missing because the parents went for a meal. The child is missing because something else happened, and we don't yet know what it is. Fiver: Sorry, but you’re factually wrong.

The child isn’t missing because the parents went for a meal.

The child is missing because something else happened, and we don’t yet know what it is.

]]> By: Fiver http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4706 Fiver Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:16:28 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4706 Sure there is a lot of bullshit and misinformation floating around but I think it was Bock that pointed out we should stick to the facts and the facts unlike the truth are pure and simple; two parents left a four year old and two two year old twins on their own in a foreign country while they had a meal with friends. Guilty as fucking sin. You can talk about smear campaigns, corrupt cops and conspiracy theories all you want but ironically all you end up creating is more smoke to distort the truth which is simple; a four year old is missing probably dead because they saw nothing wrong with leaving three kids on their own. I would have slightly more symphathy if the kid had wondered off and been snatched but to actually decide to leave your kids on their own, unsupervised is fucking stupid. Parents are suppoused to nurture and protect their children not run off and have a good time in a fucking tepas bar. Sure there is a lot of bullshit and misinformation floating around but I think it was Bock that pointed out we should stick to the facts and the facts unlike the truth are pure and simple; two parents left a four year old and two two year old twins on their own in a foreign country while they had a meal with friends. Guilty as fucking sin. You can talk about smear campaigns, corrupt cops and conspiracy theories all you want but ironically all you end up creating is more smoke to distort the truth which is simple; a four year old is missing probably dead because they saw nothing wrong with leaving three kids on their own. I would have slightly more symphathy if the kid had wondered off and been snatched but to actually decide to leave your kids on their own, unsupervised is fucking stupid. Parents are suppoused to nurture and protect their children not run off and have a good time in a fucking tepas bar.

]]> By: badgerdaddy http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4700 badgerdaddy Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:40:08 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4700 That's fair enough Bock, and the points you've made are totally valid. Looking at the whole case - or what I've read and heard, at least - it's really difficult to see any definitive conclusion to this, isn't it? It's just fucking ugly whichever way you look at it. But I wasn't aware of the thing with the police until I read your lovely blog, so thanks for that - more reading on this required on my part. Fucking tough thing to have an opinion on too. There seems to be a fuckload of misinformation, or a lack of information - as you've shown today, with the police info - out there. Or not out there, if you see what I mean. That’s fair enough Bock, and the points you’ve made are totally valid. Looking at the whole case - or what I’ve read and heard, at least - it’s really difficult to see any definitive conclusion to this, isn’t it? It’s just fucking ugly whichever way you look at it. But I wasn’t aware of the thing with the police until I read your lovely blog, so thanks for that - more reading on this required on my part.
Fucking tough thing to have an opinion on too. There seems to be a fuckload of misinformation, or a lack of information - as you’ve shown today, with the police info - out there. Or not out there, if you see what I mean.

]]> By: Conan Drumm http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4697 Conan Drumm Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:47:09 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4697 Bock, I'm cynical about the media and I'm cynical about policing. As far as I know all outcomes are still possible, and there may be no certain, satisfactory and credible resolution of this case. I will make one observation about the McCann parents - in my view they were negligent and everything flows from that, including their approach subsequently. I know a few doctors, they leave their medical bags locked in the boots of their cars. They do this even when they're just a few metres away inside a house, be it their own or someone they're visiting socially. What they NEVER do is leave their medical bags in plain view in an unlocked car. It's not because they're especially clever. It's common sense, if you follow me. Bock, I’m cynical about the media and I’m cynical about policing. As far as I know all outcomes are still possible, and there may be no certain, satisfactory and credible resolution of this case.

I will make one observation about the McCann parents - in my view they were negligent and everything flows from that, including their approach subsequently.

I know a few doctors, they leave their medical bags locked in the boots of their cars. They do this even when they’re just a few metres away inside a house, be it their own or someone they’re visiting socially. What they NEVER do is leave their medical bags in plain view in an unlocked car. It’s not because they’re especially clever. It’s common sense, if you follow me.

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4695 Bock Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:26:44 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4695 Badgerdaddy: Ok.I see your point, though the central; thing is the fact that charges have been laid against the policemen and there's nothing said about it. They're actually past the stage of being arguido. Yet the McCanns are still only declared suspects by the police and are nevertheless being treated as criminals by some. Annie: Sorry. That might have come across as a bit sharp. I was actually agreeing with you. Badgerdaddy: Ok.I see your point, though the central; thing is the fact that charges have been laid against the policemen and there’s nothing said about it. They’re actually past the stage of being arguido. Yet the McCanns are still only declared suspects by the police and are nevertheless being treated as criminals by some.

Annie: Sorry. That might have come across as a bit sharp. I was actually agreeing with you.

]]> By: Annie Rhiannon http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4694 Annie Rhiannon Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:03:29 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4694 Of course it is as bad, that's what I said. But the point i'm making is that images are easily manipulated — some dude asked me to prove it so I did. I think people should be aware of how easy it is to change things in Photoshop. Not necessarily in this case but in advertising etc. Of course it is as bad, that’s what I said. But the point i’m making is that images are easily manipulated — some dude asked me to prove it so I did.

I think people should be aware of how easy it is to change things in Photoshop. Not necessarily in this case but in advertising etc.

]]> By: badgerdaddy http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4688 badgerdaddy Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:36:06 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/09/portuguese-police-arguidos-and-the-mccanns#comment-4688 Bock, is it right to present something as hard-to-hardish evidence backing up your case then, when someone does a pretty decent job of pointing out what a poor job of Photoshoppery someone's done on it, respond with sarcasm? Okay, it might not be as significant as someone actually having the shit kicked out of them by the police, but exaggerating evidence is, as I recall, against all sorts of laws in... Well, everywhere, as far as I know. I mean, if that were submitted in court, obviously. Isn't this the same kind of reaction that's happening the other way everywhere else*? Someone postulates something about the situation, others decry, and when it's questioned... Sarcasm or name-calling. I just pointed out it was shitty Photoshop work, Cap'n P. I work with Photoshop every bastard day, and I already have a fucking brain, ta. Just saying. *What a shit sentence! Bock, is it right to present something as hard-to-hardish evidence backing up your case then, when someone does a pretty decent job of pointing out what a poor job of Photoshoppery someone’s done on it, respond with sarcasm?
Okay, it might not be as significant as someone actually having the shit kicked out of them by the police, but exaggerating evidence is, as I recall, against all sorts of laws in… Well, everywhere, as far as I know. I mean, if that were submitted in court, obviously. Isn’t this the same kind of reaction that’s happening the other way everywhere else*? Someone postulates something about the situation, others decry, and when it’s questioned… Sarcasm or name-calling.

I just pointed out it was shitty Photoshop work, Cap’n P. I work with Photoshop every bastard day, and I already have a fucking brain, ta.

Just saying.

*What a shit sentence!

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