You Gotta Love Those Americans

 Posted by on October 6, 2007  Add comments
Oct 062007
 

Apparently, a post of mine was linked to by somebody called Mark Steyn.

I don’t know who the hell Mark Steyn is. Maybe he’s somebody popular in America, but I never heard of him. On the other hand, so what? Americans never heard of the rest of the world, so that seems to make it fairly even, in my opinion.

Anyhow, that isn’t what I wanted to say.

What I wanted to say was that Mr Steyn’s link resulted in the busiest traffic Bock has ever had, and I thought it was only fair to thank the lemmings people who flooded my site with abusive comments.

And so, I thought maybe a song would be appropriate, so here’s a fellow American to serenade them.

Thanks again guys. Just one thing so we can be clear: you’re not planning to to bring me peace and democracy any time soon, are you?

No?

Good. That’s all right then.
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  1.  

    we are our own worse enemy, sugar…and sadly, without any sense of humor either.

  2.  

    I can never understand why the Americans call their World Series just that. I mean it’s not as if any other country is taking part.

  3.  

    Hey Bock – great clip, where did ya rob it? I looked up the lyrics for ya!

    Conservative Christian Right-Wing Republican Straight White American Males

    by Todd Snider
    from East Nashville Skyline

    Conservative Christian, right-wing Republican
    Straight white American males
    Gay-bashin, black-fearin
    War-fightin, tree-killin
    Regional leaders of sales
    Frat-housin, keg-tappin
    Shirt-tuckin, back-slappin
    Haters of hippies like me
    Tree-huggin, peace-lovin
    Pot-smokin, porn-watchin
    Lazy-*** hippies like me

    Tree-huggin, love-makin
    Pro-choicin, gay-weddin
    Widespread-diggin hippies like me
    Skin color blinded, conspiracy minded
    Protesters of corporate greed
    We who have nothing
    And most likely will ’til
    We all end up locked up in jail
    By conservative Christian, right-wing Republican
    Straight white American males

    Diamonds and dogs, boys and girls
    Living together in two separate worlds
    Following leaders up mountains of shame
    Looking for someone to blame

    Diamonds and dogs, boys and girls
    Living together in two separate worlds
    Following leaders up mountains of shame
    Looking for someone to blame
    I know who I like to blame

    Conservative Christian, right-wing Republican
    Straight white American males
    Soul-savin, flag-wavin
    Rush-lovin, land-pavin
    Personal friends to the Quayles
    Quite diligently workin so hard to keep
    The free reins of this democracy
    From tree-huggin, peace-lovin
    Pot-smokin, bare-footin
    Folk singin hippies like me
    Tree-huggin, peace-lovin
    Pot-smokin, porn-watchin
    Lazy-*** hippies like me

    Take care. Mind those WMD’s…

    Nuts

  4.  

    Savannah: Oh, I think we’re looking at a small proportion of Americans. They just happen to be a VERY LOUD small proportion.

    Ellen: In fairness to them, the World Series is named after a cigarette brand or something.

    Nut: It’s the great Todd Snider. I thought it might be appropriate.

  5.  

    Bock, do you not remember Mark Steyn’s syndicated column from the Irish Times?

    He was a neocon hack. A complete simpleton. From what I remember, every single thing he said was wrong. Full of fighting talk leading up to the war in Iraq. But the type you just knew would run a mile from an actually serving in a real war. You know the kind.

    The Irish Times replaced him with another neocon Charles Krauthhammer, who I guess is less of a hack.

  6.  

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Steyn

    makes interesting reading.

  7.  

    “I can never understand why the Americans call their World Series just that. I mean it’s not as if any other country is taking part.”

    The Montreal Expos would beg to differ. Also all the Dominicans who dominate baseball these days…

    Anyway, Bock, glad to see you’ve followed the standard playbook of the blogger caught in a dumb mistake– attempt to dismiss the traffic your blunder brought with disdain. The sight of you sneering at the obscurity of Mark Steyn, published all over the world, is quite amusing.

    Anyway, once again let us say it: Bush wasn’t the dumb one, the person who thought he was talking about the actual Mandela in Iraq, and not the idea of a Mandela equivalent, was.

  8.  

    Gary: Wait a minute. Was he that fool they had in the Times before they took on Krauthammer? Jesus, if I knew it was that idiot I woiuldn’t have given these people any credence at all. He’s a knee-jerk dimwit.

    Mike: Gary reminded me who he is. He used to write a column in the Irish Times until they dropped him for being too boring. He might be published all over your world, but he clearly speaks to a limited neocon audience.

    By the way, would you like to quote the original text you disagree with so much?

  9.  

    Ellen, dearie, publishers of early sports guides, not American grandiosity or nationalistic rhoid rage, lie behind the term “World Series”, whose antecedents go all the way back to the 1880’s, when the idea of a world baseball championship was first contemplated. As the game became more popular it was thought eventually that the championship would be competed for by teams from Australia and other parts of the world. That didn’t happen, but the name stuck. By 1903 the popular Reach Guide referrred to the first post-season playoffs as “The World’s Championship Series”; by 1912 this was shortened to “World’s Series”, then in 1964 to the present “World Series”. If jingoism were behind the term, by now we power-crazed Yanks would surely refer to our baseball playoffs as “The World’s Sole Superpower Series”. See:

    http://roadsidephotos.com/baseball/name.htm

  10.  

    Bock, “that fool” you refer to writes a column for McLeans magazine, and many others.

    “That fool” is world famous among journalists.

    “That fool” has written an international best seller on America’s war against Islamofascist terrorism.

    “That fool’s” prose stylings, and wit, are much admired.

    May I predict, sir, “that fool” will continue to be read by millions, whilst YOU, sir, will sink back into your much-deserved obscurity within the next few days.

    Oh, here’s you:

    “Ellen: In fairness to them, the World Series is named after a cigarette brand or something.”

    “or something”. Whatever!!

    Quelle flake!

    QED

  11.  

    effinayright : I stand corrected. He’s a much-admired fool then. And a knee-jerk bigot.

    And as far as the World Series is concerned, what makes you think anybody this side of the Atlantic ought to know anything about your game of bat-ball?

  12.  

    You asked what your offending words were. Here they are:

    “Even I wouldn’t believe Bush could be this stupid if I hadn’t heard it for myself.

    Here’s Dubya in his own words:

    “I heard somebody say, Where’s Mandela?’ Well, Mandela’s dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas.”

    You don’t believe me?

    OK. I wouldn’t believe me either without evidence, so here you go. Listen to President GW Bush in his own words.”

    Well, sentient beings familiar with analogies understood Bush to mean “the Iraqi equivalent of Mandela” is dead. Because, you see, “Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas.”

    Lemme parse this further for you. By referring to “all the Mandelas” Bush was obviously not referring to all Nelson Mandela’s relatives, but to all the OTHER Iraqi equivalents of Mandela.

    By not understanding a simple analogy, you have demonstrated to all that you are trapped in a world of obtuse literalism, IOW you have soiled yourself in public. Best you take a shoehorn to your shorts before “it” dries.

  13.  

    You: “And as far as the World Series is concerned, what makes you think anybody this side of the Atlantic ought to know anything about your game of bat-ball?”

    Well we yanks are on THIS side of the Atlantic, so if you explain how you can absolve yourself and “anybody over there for not knowing details about something quintessentially American while accusing US of not knowing (unnamed) things about stuff on your side, please give it a go.

    Like many self-important buffoons you assume what you know is important, but what others know are mere trifles. Nice to see you set yourself up as the Gold standard.

  14.  

    Your game is of no relevance to anyone outside America (which means most of the world’s population, by the way).

    The only thing relevant to me is that I don’t want my children’s future endangered by this very limited man that nearly half of you elected to lead your country.

    Let me put it this way: who in their right mind would put a chimp in charge of a wrecking-ball?

  15.  

    Call me a voyeur or something worse (aw, go on, Bock; it’s where you best show off the less than Olympian heights of your intellectual skill set) but I do love watching liberal-left wankers like you flashing yourselves stupid in public. Keep up the bad work!

  16.  

    Hi there, Chalie Alic. I didn’t know Canadians threw pro-Bush insults as well. Or are you really Mark Steyn?

  17.  

    effinayright says:

    “That fool” is world famous among journalists”

    Tee hee!

    Excerpt from the link about Steyn I left above:

    “His incorrect predictions have been widely mocked. For example, Geoffrey Wheatcroft in the Guardian wrote:

    “Apart from predicting that George Bush would win the 2000 presidential election in a landslide, Steyn said at regular intervals that Osama bin Laden “will remain dead”.

    [Do you think he’s saying the same about Mandela???]

    “Weeks after the invasion of Iraq he assured his readers that there would be “no widespread resentment at or resistance of the western military presence”;

    “in December 2003 he wrote that “another six weeks of insurgency sounds about right, after which it will peter out”;

    “and the following March he insisted that: “I don’t think it’s possible for anyone who looks at Iraq honestly to see it as anything other than a success story.” [7]:
    ……….

    “He has been accused of “Steynwalling”[8], meaning refusal to acknowledge errors

    “Later, in a review of America Alone, Hari accused Steyn of “raw racism”, pointing to a passage which he argues shows Steyn to be celebrating the birth of ‘white’ babies over those of other ethnicities.

    “He also states that Steyn “describes as ‘correct’ a friend who talks about ‘beturbanned prophet-monkeys'” and goes on to say that “for [Steyn], culture is merely a thinly veiled homologue for race.”[11]

    “He is scornful of the United Nations, advocating either United States withdrawal from the organization or its complete disbandment.

    “Steyn hosted The Rush Limbaugh Show on August 24, 2006 [12]. He referred to Vietnamese communists as “gooks” when comparing the Vietnam and Iraq wars …

    “He frequently lampoons environmentalists and mocks people he regards as “global warming alarmists”.

    “In a post on Mclean’s website dated 19 July 2007, Steyn stated that he had also left the Sun-Times during the course of the trial of Conrad Black when the paper “yanked” a column of his defending Black.

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    Jaysus, he sounds like a cretin, a racist, a bigot, and a Yank Republican wannabe. What the F was he doing writing for the Irish Times? Are we sure about that?

  18.  

    Yes Nora, he did. I remembered him when Gary said it. He wrote for the Times as a sort of token drooling right-winger, but he was so predictable they dropped him fairly quickly.

    I know that Effinayright thinks he’s world famous, but I suspect it might be as a figure of fun — a stereotypical cardboard cut-out right-winger.

    You could probably write his column yourself.

  19.  

    LOL! A day or so ago, Bock proudly professed ignorance about Steyn, so he then googles his name and accepts uncritically a Wikipedia article that includes entirely unattributed “quotes” from a hostile Geoffrey Wheatcroft.

    Well, maybe Steyn had a pollyanna-ish attitude toward the Iraq war, even though it sounds quite unlike his hardbitten real politik stance on everything else but…. try actually googling those putative quotes, and you’ll get nothing but a repetition of Wheatcroft’s assertions, by Woolcott and others. Curious, don’t you think?

    But we all can trust Wikipedia articles. Everyone knows that!

  20.  

    Hey Buddy. Somebody else posted that. Try to read straight.

    Just going back to the casual racism thing, would that be a typical New England attitude or are you a bit of an exception?

  21.  

    Racism? what the hell you talkin’ about?

    as for not noticing it was Nora who cut-and-pasted,..meh. You ratified her comments, so what’s the diff.

  22.  

    You’ve lost all moral authority. Goodbye.

  23.  

    The “knee jerk bigot” stuff is really childish. You may disagree with Steyn, but you are doing your intellect no favors by relying on ad hominem invective rather than making actual point by point counter-arguments to refute Mr. Steyn’s contentions.

    Thus, it seems to me, it is your knee that is jerking, not his.

    Yes, Steyn is very popular. But despite that, in my opinion, he is enormously learned and one of the wittiest writers out there.

    Best of luck
    kev

  24.  

    Steyn is a deluded fool who is frequently the targeted and dismissed by smart bloggers all over, Bock.
    Please keep in mind that shrub stole at least one election and that he has less than a 30% approval rating. Americans are sick of him.

  25.  

    Kev: Thanks for not hurling abuse at me. And you’re right: I was starting to be drawn in to the abuse culture around me. In fact, I was beginning to fear it was the American Way.

    Medbh: These Americans seem to like him, though. Are you sure they represent only 30%?

  26.  

    Hail to the chief……..

  27.  

    Bock, the latest poll puts it at 31%

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20071005.WORLDREPORT05-1/TPStory/TPInternational/America/

    The majority of Americans (in the 60% range) want the war in Iraq to end now.

  28.  

    Effinanyright – quote -unquote By 1903 the popular Reach Guide referrred to the first post-season playoffs as “The World’s Championship Series”; by 1912 this was shortened to “World’s Series”, then in 1964 to the present “World Series”. If jingoism were behind the term, by now we power-crazed Yanks would surely refer to our baseball playoffs as “The World’s Sole Superpower Series”

    First off … there are not three ‘r’s in referred.

    Second off…I won’t argue the point that no other country besides America plays in The World Series with a person who cannot spell.

  29.  

    Ellen: Whatever about his spelling, I won’t give him a platform for racism. He’s gone.

  30.  

    God bless YOU Bock and all who sail in you! Keep up the great work…..

  31.  

    Let’s just stick with the analogy – leaving the less contentious “Is Bush stupid?” question to one side – here is the quote (again):

    “I heard somebody say, Where’s Mandela?’ Well, Mandela’s dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas.”

    As an analogy it is inappropriate at every level – it seeks to hang the illegitimacy of the Iraq war on the achievements and unassailable reputation of Nelson Mandela. Mandela is a good guy; Iraq doesn’t have any good guys, because Saddam killed them all; therefore it is Saddam’s fault that there is no savior available to dig the US (and UK) out of the mess that they’ve made. It seeks to align Bush on the side of Mandela and thereby legitimise his atrocious actions in the middle east…. Inappropriate, inappropriate, inappropriate.

    The really distasteful aspect of the analogy is the fact that the American Right (of which Buch is undoubtedly either (A) a representative or (B) a puppet) were adamant throughout the period of apartheid that Mandela was a terrorist and that the ANC was a terrororist organisation. The Right’s opposition to boycotts and sanctions against South Africa were littered with attacks on Mandela and the ANC.

    Forward wind to the present Iraqi predicament and suddenly the lack of a Mandela is seriously put forward as a reason for the lack of a political solution…

    It would be laughable, if it wasn’t so sick – particularly as the Iraqi Mandela or Mandelas (to accept the premise) is as likely to have been killed by the US carpet bombing of Iraq or by the US Army’s indiscriminant killing of civilians (which have killed more Iraqis than ever died by the hand of Saddam) than he is to have been killed by Saddam Hussein…

    The vitriol poured on you, Bock, is to be expected, unfortunately. Stick to your guns; seeking to intimidate anyone with views contrary to the prevailing doctrine is the American Way – their history is littered with the suppression of dissent.

  32.  

    here is a little php code that one could use to send referrers from Mr. Stynes visitors to something like aljazeera.net.

    If I may – a demonstration as to what it does. follow the link to limerickblogger.org from stormfront

    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showpost.php?p=4060060&postcount=1

  33.  

    Manuel: Thanks. Kind of you.

    Mr Ici: Well reasoned and pertinent, as ever. There’s nothing I need to add to your comment.

    Squid: That’s terrific. I’ll hold it in reserve should it ever be needed.

  34.  

    Mike G,

    “….The Montreal Expos would beg to differ. Also all the Dominicans who dominate baseball these days…”

    The Montreal Expos are no more, have been dead for years. So they cannot beg to differ. There are, however, the Toronto Blue Jays, who have won the World Series. With a team full of Dominicans. So much for an American game. The Canadians own it now. And we no longer accept American dollars.

  35.  

    where did mark steyn link to your from?

  36.  

    Don’t know. I’m just looking at all the referrals from his site. It’s terrifying. I don’t know what I’m going to do.

  37.  

    LOL

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