Dec 122007
 

Did you know that our government made a deal with the religious orders to cover their costs in the Residential Institutions Redress Board? Of course you did: I told you HERE.

And did you know that the corresponding cost to the tax-payer of child-abuse by religious orders is currently in excess of one thousand two hundred million euros? Of course you did.

And did you know that the religious orders will never hand out a penny more than the €128 million they agreed in a confidential deal with our government, no matter how high the final settlements go? A deal agreed in secret with one of Bertie Ahern’s former employers by his minister, Michael Woods, at a meeting from which the attorney general was excluded.

€2 billion.

€3 billion.

€4 billion Who cares?

It doesn’t matter to the priests and the brothers who carried out the rapes. You’re going to cover their bill whether you like it or not, and they can continue selling off their extensive lands to property developers at a handsome profit, thanks to you. Let’s have a big hand for YOU, you generous old tax-payer, you.

At the time, we were told that the rationale for covering a single cent of this money was this: the State put the children into the hands of these monsters, and therefore shared responsibility for the abuse.

Well, today this has been shown up as a lie, a fraud and an assault on our democracy by the most corrupt government this country has ever known.

Today, you see, marked the release of the McCoy report on the sexual abuse of disabled children over a period of thirty years by the Brothers of Charity in Galway. Publication of the report, which details physical violence, beatings, floggings, anal rape and torture of children with Down syndrome, autism and a range of other conditions, was delayed for eight years by the religious order whose activities it exposes. Flogging children with Down syndrome! Even I’m boggled by this, cynical and hardened though I am. Floggings!

Furthermore, when the public started to grow angry, these Brothers of Charity hired people to train their staff in child abuse. But when these people started to ask hard questions, they were sacked. Not only that: any staff members willing to co-operate with investigations were quickly got rid of.

Now. To the report.

One of the astounding aspects of the whole thing is that the Brothers of Charity were given a say in the terms of reference of the original inquiry. Can you believe that? I don’t know about you, but it seems to me that in a properly-functioning society, the police would not be consulting suspected child-rapists. It seems to me that they’d be breaking their doors down and tear-gassing anyone who tried to stop them, but not apparently in Ireland. What does that say about our police?

What’s more, only thirty victims were interviewed: over a hundred others have claimed to the Redress Board.

I wasn’t going to say anything about the actual report, but having read it, what strikes me hardest is how intellectually weak it is. This was clearly written by a committee most comfortable in a world of clichés and social-worker-speak. Thus, abused children are service users.

There’s also a very worrying acceptance of the sort of cant that absolves religious leaders from responsibilities. Read this and see what you think:

In common with the general population there was a lack of awareness amongst staff of the issue of sexual abuse until the topic gained media attention in the late 1980s. When it became apparent that some service users had been sexual abused, staff were genuinely shocked.

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That statement contains a lot of assumptions. When I and my friends went to a Christian Brothers school at the age of seven, we all knew about those being abused and so did everyone else. What’s this lack of awareness among the general population all about? Anyone who tells you they didn’t know is a liar, and that gives me serious cause for concern about this report.

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The report was clearly written by a committee of lightweights who had no idea how to get to the point, and who were more concerned about the presentation than the substance. Likewise, to judge by the sloppily-written text, nobody seems to have cared if the report was readable.

The uncritical tone starts early. According to the report:

It is clear from the records reviewed that both former and current service users and former and current staff have been frank and open in regard to their experiences. Without this openness it would not have been possible to produce any report.

Hmm. I wonder if the dismissed staff would agree with that?

According to the report’s introduction,

The Brother of Charity Services were saddened and concerned that abuse may have occurred in their services in the past?

Oh, were they now?

Saddened.

Not desolate?

Not remorseful?

Not heartbroken ?

Not GUILTY ?

No.

Saddened, the sad bastards.

And concerned !!

Imagine!

The Brothers of Charity were concerned that abuse may have occurred.

Read that carefully now. The managers of the rapists are concerned that abuse may have occurred.

These pathetic little men can’t even admit at this late stage that their pals were raping disabled children for years, and I have to wonder why. Is it because the Brothers of Charity can’t see anything wrong with sexually abusing children?

May have occurred? Who said this? Oh God, wouldn’t I love to have this mealy-mouthed swine in front of me. I swear to you, I would tear this motherfucker to pieces.

May have occurred? Are you calling these abused people liars, you pathetic child-abusing bastard?

People, be very fucking angry, for this is what preceded modern Ireland, and these people haven’t gone away. They are still there, and the same sexually-disordered little men and women, who cast doubt on the word of the abused, are still strutting in front of you, in positions of power, granted to them by our corrupt government. These people, in their own way, are still raping abused children.

When they dismissed members of staff for co-operating with the investigations, were the saintly Brothers showing the same Christian concern? And when they were moving rapists from one school to another in pursuit of their victims, were the kindly monks equally saddened that it was necessary to sodomise so many disabled children?

Here’s the inquiry team:

Dr. Elizabeth Healy (Chair)
The Chair’s work with the Inquiry ceased in January 2006 for personal reasons.

Ms. Dawn Glynn, Acting Senior Clinical Psychologist
Returned to her substantive post with effect from 28th August 2001.

Ms. Siobhan Burke, Clinical Psychologist
Returned to her substantive post with effect from 25th June, 2001.

Ms. Pat Melody-Dunne, Manager, Residential Centre
Availed of a Career Break with effect from 1st March, 2000.

Ms. Jill Osborne, Social Worker
Resigned from Inquiry Team with effect from 11th May, 1999.

Ms. Ann Wall, Social Worker
Membership agreed to 3lst August, 1999.

Eh, do you notice any gaps here?

Any gaps at all?

Here’s a hint: we’re talking about multiple rapes and violent assault, otherwise known as crime. Do you notice any police involved in the investigation?

No. Neither did I.

Chapter Four tells us :

Child abuse is a highly complex issue, which does not easily lend itself to definitions or measurement.

Sorry: a cleric with his dick up a disabled child’s arse is not a complex issue, in my humble, non-social-worker-trained opinion. That’s a fucking pervert who should be in jail. The end.

The report then goes on to engage in all sorts of definitions of abuse which look to me like they were lifted straight out of Child Abuse for First-Year Sociology Students (Pass Course). It’s becoming clearer why this report took eight years to publish: we didn’t have a bunch of Einsteins looking into these crimes. We had a bunch of fucking social workers.

I’m angry. I’m angry, just reading their insipid prose that masks the reality of the brutal treatment these children received.

Let me give you an example. Let’s look at the euphemism challenging behaviour.

Some people in what they’re pleased to call the caring professions like to use neutral language. Value-free language, such as challenging behaviour.

Let me say this: when children are being raped, neutral language and value-free thinking has no relevance. That’s why the mindset behind the following paragraph has absolutely no place investigating the crimes perpetrated at Kilcornan. This is the tyranny of the bland:

The challenging behaviour of some clients was a big issue in the general management of service users in Kilcornan. Some psychology staff had developed a special interest in this issue and had developed an extensive knowledge base. A Challenging Behaviour Team was established to monitor challenging behaviour and develop strategies for its management. Quite extensive training in challenging behaviour had been provided for staff and a procedure for the management of incidents had been developed. However, some interviewees still did not seem to have a clear understanding of why they had to make written records relating to the management of challenging behaviour in individual cases. The purpose of collecting the data required by the Challenging Behaviour Team seemed not to be fully understood.

Service users. It sounds like something written by the rejects from the Christmas choir.

Did you ever in your entire life read anything as bloodless?

They’re talking about raped children, but they can’t bring themselves to transcend their straitjacket of jargon. They can’t write about raped abused children because that would be unprofessional. Not detached enough.

Service users.

What sad bastards.

This paragraph tells you all you need to know about the failings of the Irish health service. It shows you the drab, unimaginative people who have somehow been handed power in that organisation, and it tells me that there is little hope of progress.

I’m not going to bore you with the rest of their definitions about intellectual disability, their quotes from the WHO and UNESCO or their talk of challenging behaviour. Read it for yourself if you must.

All I’m going to tell you is that the report, unsurprisingly, blames nobody for all the rapes and sexual abuse. Blame is not a permitted word within this mindset. I’m just going to tell you that somebody in the Western Health Board managed to delay the publication of this report – insipid though it might be – for eight years, by means unknown. All I’m going to tell you is that the police stood back from a catalogue of violent rapes and are still doing nothing. All I’m going to say is that the abusers are still in charge of the kids, and the government that gave the abusers €1.2 billion are still in power.

Decide for yourself. You’re an adult.

Lucky you.

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  61 Responses to “The Brothers of Charity:– Raping Your Children Since 1883 !!”

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  1.  

    I feel sick reading that. It’s a major slap in the face to anyone that’s been hurt by those animals. Jail is too good for them. Anyone involved in this shouldn’t be able to sleep at night, they shouldn’t be protected and anyone that’s protecting them is just as bad. They should be living every day of their lives in pain and fear. They can never take back what they have done and now these fuckwits are letting them off easy.

    Shocked my arse, nobody had the balls to do anything about it and now they’re all back pedalling and it’s reports like this that are letting them all away with it. What the fuck is wrong with this country? How can they seriously live with themselves making sure that those lowlifes are being treated with much more dignity than the innocent children in their care?

  2.  

    I’m glad you’re angry. It makes this effort worthwhile.

    Be angry. Be very fucking angry.

  3.  

    This boggles the mind. I count Irish people amongst my friends and I’m disgusted by the unhealthy relationship the political leadership still has with the Church. Any other organisation so sick, bloated and corrupt as the Church would have been expunged from modern society at the turn of the last century. It makes me sick to read of the most vulnerable in Irish society being raped and flogged by some of the most powerful, and how politically powerful people are actually protecting these criminals. It truly boggles the mind. I would like to see the Catholic Church in Ireland, and elsewhere, knackered, castrated, rendered impotent as an organisation and all the ugliness and secrecy inherent in its practices cut off.

  4.  

    Christ, I fucking despair. Reading this, I don’t have the words to express how much I fucking despair.

    I’m glad you do.

  5.  

    I am sitting here shaking with anger Bock.
    I shouldnt be surprised by the facts you bring up here. I cant believe that the Church after all they’ve done in the past are going to finish the Job and rape the entire country all over again. They should be allowed to call themselves Christian,its a cult,if someone came up with the ideals that they hold dear and THEN abused children on a systematic basis.There would be Troops surrounding their compound,tear gas at the ready.They would all go to Jail…. but thats not going to happen.
    No blame apportioned,an agreement of compensation payment where THEY profit.What the fuck is going on in the world..
    Sorry for the rant but i am livid..
    Thanks for re-igniting my pilot light Bock..

  6.  

    Excellent piece Bock. The people on that investigative committee are no better than the abusers. They had a chance to do something and failed miserably. They should be tried for accessory. That has really made me so angry, as if I really need a further reason to be angry at the shitehawks that run this country.

  7.  

    What a shame! I shall consider these investigation folks as a parter in crime. They are answerable to public, and this should be told…in a hard way.

    and, “can’t write about raped children as that would be unprofessional”…….bullshit!

    and, they still get the money! While the government is busy keeping immigrants out, they lets these things happen as a normal routine. Fuck them! Poor Kids….I hope they react violently …….against these impotent bastards.

  8.  

    And is it me…but….why are there no men in that list of committee members?

    Men don’t understand rape? Is that it?

    Just another reason why I grew into agnosticism.

  9.  

    I was away for a few days, and missed this. Disgusting and infuriating, but not surprising. I’ve heard from many people who were in institutions and all of them say they were abused themselves or know others who were. Disabled people are treated like shit still in so many settings. Do you know there’s a residential school in Massachusetts USA, were the staff use electric shocks on autistic children?
    http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/school_of_shock.html

    The church and government complicity in this show up how fucked up and heartless these organisations are. We need to pressure them to reveal the full extent of their crimes and to ensure that the perpetrators are not protected from prosecution.

  10.  

    As the mother of a young man with intellectual disability I have had dealings with the ‘services’ in Ireland for a number of years.
    I am not really surprised to hear about these horrors happening given the arrogance, insensitivity and total lack of any inspection rights by any external person/organisation….not even the H.S.E who pay up to e100,000 per resident p.a.
    Even prisoners in jail have the possibility of a ‘prison visitor/inspection’.
    This group of individuals are so vulnerable and wide open to abuses of all kinds.Many can’t speak/communicate (even if someone were actually listening).
    We have to be hearing about the tip of the iceberg!
    Because of my son’s auful experiences in one of these places he now spends most of his time with me and his family 24/7.
    I am glad that this sh*t has finally hit the fan…..it’s better out than in.
    Maybe this will help bring about some long overdue changes.
    In fairness, some people working in this area are brilliant but they would be the first to complain about the lack of accountability,advocacy and external spot inspections.(people running chip vans have more regulation!)

    WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT OUR NATIONAL PRIORITIES???

    PLEASE KEEP UP THE PRESSURE SO THAT THIS ABUSE IS STOPPED!!!

  11.  

    I am Margaret kennedy the woman sacked by the Brothers of Charity. I quite agree with you all. You know it took all this time for me to get this report out. The WHSE would not have released it but for questions in the Dail and my persistence!

    See my piece in the Irish Examiner Tomorrow.

    There is more work to do

  12.  

    Bock, like JPT said I’m glad you had the words…

  13.  

    Well done, Bock.

    Might I add, on the subject of Social Work, that the training of social workers in UCD was for years led by department heads who were themselves clerics. It would be hard to say who appointed them – the college or the Dublin Archdiocese, and it is certain that their appointment and the existence of the department itself could not occured without sanction from the Archdiocese.

    The point is not just superficially relevant (in the context of the history of social work in Ireland) but also because it demonstrates the superior authority of the Catholic church in many matters, particularly education, since Emancipation.

    I have seen a complaint referred to in a Taoiseach’s Department file from the 1950s. It related to an institution run by nuns in Cork and was referred by the civil authorities to the local Catholic bishop. I have no idea what the nature of the complaint was, it wasn’t specified, but the point is that the bishops were the bosses, not the guards, not the Oireachtas. And that is why the church should pay in full, with damages and penalties, not the citizenry.

  14.  

    Bock: a good post on a very important topic and considering the AE Mouse / Twenty thing on Present Tense, even better done under a pseudonym.

  15.  

    This report will garner the “right” responses from the political and “childcare” classes – but this delayed report will mean absolutely nothing whatsoever in the long run. We could wish that religious orders complicit in the facilitation of physical & sexual abuses against vulnerable communities would be prevented immediately from working with children or the aged but despite the mounting written evidence since 1987 when Children of the Poor Clares’ (Paperback) by Mavis Arnold & Heather Laskey was published NOT ONE SINGLE RELIGIOUS ORDER has been stopped from working in these areas.

    Also in 1930 a report (The Carrigan Report) dealing with the sexual abuse of children in Ireland was “published” and the suppressed. Despite the horrific nature of the report a Jesuit priest decided to add his own addendum stating his views (and the catholic church’s) on contraception.

    Carrigan Report Here
    http://tinyurl.com/3xwlj2

    McQuaid
    http://blip.tv/file/539302

  16.  

    All too true Bock and something that has bothered me for a good while is the schtick that the state and the wider community abandoned their responsibilities to these kids back in the day out of simple neglect when in fact the church actively sought to keep the state and the secular world out of anything to do with this area. Just as they didn’t want a state censor preferring to have parish priests get screenings before advise cinemas what pieces to remove; they wanted to do the job themselves when it came to “caring” for children.

    It’s all down to what grandpa simpson says “as was the style at the time”.

  17.  

    Exactly, Dan. If anyone in government suggested taking over the schools and hospitals, these bastards would have been all over them like a cheap suit.

  18.  

    The words “tip of the iceberg” from one of the previous responses hoping for ‘overdue’ change will indeed seem understated if you merely skim through the Romanist-condemned “TWO BABYLONS”(written a c entury & a half ago) by the Scottish ‘heretic’ Alexander Hislop as well as the more modern BABYLONIAN MYSTERY RELIGION, whose author has been pressured to..’recant(?)’. These works indicate that EVERY ecumenical Ekllesia of worldly weight, for thousands of years, have made prey of the innocent-chiefly, the euphemistic eunuchs whose position should be to PROTECT the ‘flock’. Jesus stood AGAINST these Gracefully-Gowned gonads! Romans 8 shows that deception comes by GOOD words & FAIR speeches. Ring a baal?

  19.  

    Gay men hiding behind the cloth. Supported by more gay men. They are not just responsible for the abuse of children, they are responsible for the subsequent suicides of some of these children, who, as adults, could not cope with what happened. If there is something on the other side when we die, let’s hope it involves something resembling a dead tree being shoved up the arses of these bastards, for eternity.

  20.  

    What do you mean “gay men”?

    These people aren’t gay men: they’re child abusers. Work out the difference.

  21.  

    Hold on, I know what you’re saying bock, but i think in the case of priesthood, it is a gay thing. I know child abusers abuse boys and girls, but any man who can stick his nob up a little boys bum is a gay man as well as a child abuser. It all adds up to one word. A monster. My uncle was a security gard many years ago in a now-closed “institution” for children in Cork. It was actually closed when he was wardening the area, but it was on the same property as a hospital for the unstable lets say. Anyway, he went into the building one night, and had a look around. He said that, the doors from the corridor leading off into each “room”, which he described as a “cell”, were under 5ft in height and the room itself would accommodate enough room for a child to sleep and stand up. He got such an overwhelming feeling of despair and sickness as to what he knew went on there, that he gave up the job. I know i’ve left the track slightly here, but when I think of they way children have been treated in this country over the years, both by the priests, and lets not forget the penguins, and the institutions these poor kids were put into, only to face something probably far, far worse than anything they had experienced so far. I hate nuns, and I hate priests. And I stopped going to church a long long time ago, as I can’t be a hypocrite like a still large portion of this country are.

  22.  

    Far too simplistic, Gilly, and a bit dangerous too. I don’t want anyone here creating the impression that child abuse is a practice of gay men. It isn’t. It’s a practice of child abusers.

  23.  

    You’re absolutely right Bock. I think it always had more to do with access, who was available, and the Church is a male organization. Girls never got backstage. Girls never served at the altar, when I was growing up in that church, or spent any time with priests. If they had they would have been abused at the same rate as boys. Certainly in the residential schools they were. Abuse is abuse. It’s got nothing to do with sexuality.

  24.  

    Fair enough, I won’t use the G word again, in relation to abuse. But it does seem to be a Man thing doesn’t it…

  25.  

    Don’t know. Ask Rose West.

  26.  

    Yes – I read the book. But weigh it up.

  27.  

    You asked if it was a man thing.

    Certainly men seem to be in the majority, but I don’t know what the figures are, and furthermore, we’d have to define abuse. I know that the saintly nuns inflicted appalling cruelty on their charges over the years, but whether there was a sexual dimension to their cruelty I couldn’t say for sure, though I suspect there was.

    A quick googling of “sexual abuse by women” throws up a lot of results.

  28.  

    Look, call me old fashioned, but there is something wrong with a man wanting to put his mickey into a bottom. Any bottom. I agree the nuns have a lot to answer for, but I don’t believe it’s on the same scale at all. The nuns were just full of hatred, but I believe that the male abusers are full of hatred, and something else. A need to dominate defenceless creatures. And to inflict pain in the worst possible way. I guess I will never understand it. I’ve often thought about how utterly evil people can be, in all respects and if you let it, it could inside your head too much.Anyway, I’m off to get a panini & chips, followed by a couple of vinos. Bock, i only discovered your site yesterday, and i must say it’s interesting and very entertaining, and you don’t hold back. Great stuff.

  29.  

    “I believe that the male abusers are full of hatred, and something else. A need to dominate defenceless creatures. And to inflict pain in the worst possible way.”

    You seem to always take it back to male abuse of boys.
    But that statement also applies when men rape girls. The same hatred in both cases, the same need to dominate, “to inflict pain in the worst possible way”. Are you saying it’s worse somehow when men rape boys, because “bottoms” are involved, because the men are gay? Which they may not be – children, to abusers, are objects, to be used. Many abusers will abuse boys and girls. I think you know from what you said above that rape and abuse have nothing to do with sexuality, but with violence, hate and the need for power, the need to use, to inflict pain. Gay or straight, the crime is the same, and so is the harm done.

    And yes, of course women abuse children. I don’t know what the statistics are either, but I think you’ll find more men abuse than women. But it’s got nothing to do with being gay. Outside of restricted environments like the church more girls are abused than boys.

    Panini and chips? Ireland was where I first met the culinary concept of “lasagna and chips”.

  30.  

    ‘call me old fashioned, but there is something wrong with a man wanting to put his mickey into a bottom. Any bottom’.. that’s messed up and has nothin to do with what Bock was talking about. Sounds very homophobic to me. ( This is coming from a heterosexual woman.)
    Where are the only appropriate places for a ‘mickey’, I wonder? Oh nevermind, don’t answer that.

  31.  

    In your ear Audrey.

  32.  

    Ever tried that ‘Gilly’? Which ear is best? Does it (de ‘mickey’ that is) come out the other side for you ? Could be onto something there. Old fashioned? I’d say homophobic bigot. Go eat your panini’s and drink your vino and don’t think of such horrors that exist in the world, such as ‘mickeys in bottoms, any bottom’… lol

  33.  

    just read your report,am not surprised as it has happened at their premises here in liverpool

  34.  

    -William USA

    I’m afraid i would have to say, nail.. head.. spot on. I don’t consider myself a christian, but then that’s not really important. I do believe…
    ..that is believe in the unlimited ability of the dark, cruel and heartless to inflict suffering on the innocent. And your spot on in your connection to the baylonian mystery religions (easy now freemasons of the blue lodge, you have a ways to go yet before you’re enlightened to that point. Go and get yourself a copy of Albert Pikes, morals and dogma from the lodge library… if you can find one) What we now call ritual (or satanic ritual) abuse, has indeed historical roots in the mainstream religion of the ancient baylonians (soddom and gamorah anyone?) as does our dear sweet catholic church to a certain degree.
    Has anyone seen the E.U. tower of Babel poster with inverted stars (pentangles as it were) representing the E.U. parliment building in Strasburg ? Such a fine piece of occult symbolism. These secret cabals are the people running our world, so i guess it should not really be a surprise that there is such a proliferation of child abuse running though out it. Remember that sack of shit Marc Dutrou (“Dutrou” meaning “of the hole” interstingly enough)? How did it possibly come about that he managed to escape twice. I think it’s quite simply because those children were not procured (or kidnapped and raped to put in words that do not take away from the vileness of the act, or the man) for his own pleasure. Dutrou was supplying a peadophile ring, with some high profile clients.
    Do the actions of the brothers of charity surprise me? Sadly no. And these types of revelations will most likely continue until we realise that they are not unrelated incidents. Or a case of “a few bad apples”. This is institutional, and the church are not alone in it. And until we stop handing our children over to faceless institions without ever a question, we will continue have such heart breaking, shameful stories to tell

  35.  

    Get a life loser!!!! Did you know the abuse rate by all religions is the same (2-3%). The abuse rate for the average joe male in society is 6%. I once had a farm hand show me his penis when I was a boy and he asked me to touch it. Luckily nothing happened but it makes me aware that pervs are everywhere. You and all the other half wits out there blasting the church should have an equal section on muslim clerics, rabbis, baptist ministers and so on as they abuse at the same rate. All offenders should be castrated and made legally blind to assure no reaccurance. To pick on one religion makes you a sick disqusting biggot. Signed, Average Catholic Joe

  36.  

    -Average Catholic Joe

    Have muslim clerics, rabbis, baptist ministers and so conspired, as an institution, to consciencely hide evidence of child abuse they knew was being committed? Have they transfered their members who were guilty of child abuse from area to area in order cover up their activities? Have they bullied and harrassed victims of child abuse committed by their institution to keep them quiet?
    If so then you’re right in thinking they’re equally dispicable. But Bock isn’t attacking christianity, or catholicism in his post, he’s criticising the institution of certain orders of the roman catholic church, who have been proven guilty of abuse.
    Also you only have to read up on the history of the catholic church(again, not the adherents but the institution itself and it’s clergy) to see that this is nothing new

  37.  

    Nicky, why are you debating with this person? This is clearly someone with a very nasty agenda, and I would advise you not to legitimise him. He’s probably a priest.

  38.  

    I think that there should be a spamguard that excludes anyone who starts a comment with “Get A Life Loser”

    I mean for fuck sake, I can just imagine this idiot making an “L” sign with his hand over his forehead.

    Oh and I did not read beyond his opening gambit, life is too short, and so am I

  39.  

    Yes, it’s pathetic, but it’s also typical of the sort of people who defend these rapists. They tend to operate at a very low level of intellect and in many ways, you’d be inclined to feel sorry for them.

  40.  

    Well Bock, clearly he has a point. The child abuse in the church apparently falls well between the “(2-3%)” bracket, and is thus in line with E.U. quotas. I’ve done some research and I think I know how the catholic church comes up with these figures;
    Now, we are all familiar with the principles of the swear jar. You swear, you put 50 cents in the jar. Well, unbeknownst to us, the catholic church operates a similiar system. You abuse a child,
    50 cent in the jar. So when the catholic church wants know the rate of abuse, it simply counts up the now millions of euros in the jar, and then divides that figure by the number of catholics who have ever existed, including jesus, and there you go, that gives you the rate of child abuse amongst the clergy ! And the figures that don’t add up, well you just have to have faith !
    This system also explains why the church had Bertie by the balls, they were doing his accounts. It’s called theophysical-rapture adjusted accounting.

    Oh, and Bock, careful about calling “average catholic joe”(who has already it seems been a victim of attempted abuse, so a very average catholic joe indeed) a priest. He might sue for defamation !

  41.  

    His point is very simple. He doesn’t like me talking about clerical sex abusers.

  42.  

    Then perhaps he should take a similiar approach to to your writing as he apparently does to clerical sex abusers, refuse to deal with it and just pretend it doesn’t exist.

  43.  

    I was raised by the Brother’s of Charity in a all boys group home located in the Philadelphia, Pa, USA area in the mid to late seventies. There were about 5 boys homes in the area at the time. I saw much sexual and predatory abuse. I’ve seen some of my foster brothers take their own live’s as a result, not to mention drug and alcohol abuse to cover up the pain. Some of these homes were used to warehouse young boys just for their evil intent.

  44.  

    Bock you are so right to say what you are saying about these animals. My own dear da was abused by them in one of their institutions and the abuser I hear, somebody called [name removed] is still living it up in some place in Ireland or England. What that bastard did to him is so abnormal but worst of all is the cover up by them all.

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    how can i help my self to forget my past…..i’m one of a priest vctime b4…..
    im 18 now and im suffering i always remember it..i want to end my slf but i’m afraid to god….

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    i want to kill them all……but god is in my heart…
    my family don’t knew this thing happn to me b4…i kept it as a scrt….right now i’m working in jeddah k.s.a…

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    heya “dark,”
    please get help. go to a health care facility and see a psychiatrist or counselor. don’t let those sobs get the best of you. don’t let them turn you against God. they are NOT part of God’s kingdom. the best to you and my prayers.

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    i planed that one day im goin to borrow a bomb to the terorist and plant it to were these mother fucker priest gather…. so all of them will go to hell in an unexpected death. it’s not easy to move on if still kep you dream what they did to you…even if you want to hide but you can’t hide to your self co’z i was the one who knew what happen to me….

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    i hear that Ambrose Kelly or james Kelly the proliific child abuser of Lota who was sentenced to over 30 years in prison has died in England but the brothers of charity are denying any knowledge of it…..nothing changes

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    hi bock,

    I am glad you are angry so God also has a righteous anger towards (these sinnners the priests I mean) of course in their own mind they have done nothing wrong. But God will let them burn in eternal punishment for this. To do that to defenseless children is nothing short of a haulocast. You can talk about the halocaust against the Jews in Germany and Hitler and all that. However no one should forget the Irish haulocaust caused largely by the selfish (unchristian and pagan ‘Catholic church, who makes the rules up as they go along.

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    Sorry Annette, I’m a pagan. My family are pagans and I deeply resent your comment that somehow these evil bastards were following some kind of pagan tradition. These evil bastards contested that they are of the same religious tradition as yourself. Namely christian. I am making a presumption that you profess to be a christian. I am assuming this based on your reference “to burning for all eternity”. I hope you will see fit to retracting your comment that somehow paedophilia is preserve of non Christians and pagans.

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    Annette — These rapists were warped by the sense of power they got from promoting your non-existent god.

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    Just read this extract, and absolutely heart breaking to read some of the comments made by some, or those that had family members who have personally experienced child abuse at the hands of these Beasts.

    Castrated by the victims, or by their families would be some tiny form of justice.

    The comments made by the username Gilly beggars belief, is she for fucking real, she comes across as a hatred filled bigot by suggesting that gay men can be classified in the same respect as these degenerates., only in the land of the spud.

    Because of her comments, I have decide to leave Llandewi Breffi foreverand to seek out the bright lights of London because of her homophobia, but not before getting myself absolutely blattered on gay drinks.

    “Another Bacardi and Coke please Myfanwy.

    Gilly you”HOMOPHOBE!”

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    Easy there. We voted to make same-sex marriage legal in the place you dismissively call the land of the spud. A little respect please.

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    For someone like the username mentioned to openly state on a public forum that gay men are akin to those men of the cloth that abused children is a despicable comment to make.

    The legalising of same-sex marriage was a great step in helping to combat this type of intolerance.

    With regards to respect, my heart and thoughts goes out to those who’s lives were traumatically damaged because of the actions of those who abused them, and in many cases these predators never faced justice.

    I grew up in an era where both phyiscal and sexual abuse of students in the Christan Brother’s School that I attended was commonplace, with lads I knew of being victims, with some turning to alcohol in later life to suppress the ordeals that they suffered with some sadly taking their own lives

    So it’s unfair to suggest to me to take it easy as you put it

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    Do these creatures not fear the god they spew out at everyone or do they
    know it’s all nonsense?. I’d rather meet Dracula any dark night than one of
    that shower of garbage.

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