Comments on: Polish man Murdered In Dublin

By: karina pozzo

karina pozzo — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:31:06 +0000

hi, well i live in argentina , but i was living in ireland for a short time.
my country lived in 90s a econimy grow up, very similar to ireland, but that growing came drogs , killers , and very much bad thing .
now ireland must learn of the another countrys, for example , argentina, and the garda must be hard with the delinquents.
and the politician not must give monney for clientalism, becouse the people ( who live and subsist for the governant) no working…
ireland , pelase , open your eyes , and not permit that this happen, becouse not come back never.

By: C'est La Craic

C'est La Craic — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:58:28 +0000

I don’t know if it’s statisticly true that Irish people are more shocked by the murder of immigrant. But if it were true, maybe it’s because immigration is such an intrenched part of our national conscience. It wasn’t so very long ago that we were the Polish. Perhaps there’s a part of us that hears about an immigrant being killed like that and thinks, that could my son in New York, or my daughter in Australia, or my brother in France. Think how parents all over Ireland, who had children in Australia, must have reacted when they heard what happened to David Keohane in Sydney. And CFF made a very good example with poor AJ Hanlon.
Still one has to shiver when they think of this children of the corn mentaity.

But in regards to cutting off allowences to parents of delinquent children I would say this. I was brought up by my mother, and I was a very angry young man with a large chip on his shoulder. Now I knew, in my heart of hearts, that if I wanted to do something there was very little she could really do to stop me, once I was physicaly bigger than her. And alot of times, whether she knew or not, I did. I made conscience decisions to avoid trouble, based on whatever morals I had at the time. But even if I hadn’t, my mother would still have been responsible for me, and my maintainance. She was still legaly as well as moraly, be obliged to provide my with clothes, food and shelter, gorrier or not. Would it have been fair to punish her even though she tried her best ?
There’s an expression in french that translates as; Don’t mix up the bathtowels with dishclothes.

By: Bock

Bock — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:52:26 +0000

That’s where you’re wrong buddy. Where did you get the idea you had any right to come on here if I don’t feel like it? You won’t get the chance again. Gobshite.

By: johnpaul

johnpaul — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:42:28 +0000

fuck u bock, if i want to come on2 this site and express my opion ill do so, i have no hatred towards anybody from another country coming here to work, my anger is directed at middle class ireland who doesnt give a shit about their own people dying because they come from a different backround or area. as i have heard many times 1 less scumbag on the streets…..

By: Bock

Bock — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:28:28 +0000

CFF — I don’t mean you. I mean that fool Johnpaul.

By: close family friend

close family friend — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:09:40 +0000

Bock, it was not my intent to offend you.

By: Bock

Bock — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 10:01:02 +0000

I don’t empathise with him one bit. He’s trying to dictate what I should talk about. If he has a problem with a particular murder, let him set up his own site and write about it or else shut the fuck up.

By: close family friend

close family friend — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:49:09 +0000

Johnpaul,
while I empathize with you regarding the Irish sometimes having more sympathies for the foreigner in the cases of murder..
I must refer you to the hundreds and hundreds of blogs on this site sent mostly by Irish bloggers to air their horror and disbelief at the slaying of a young Irish lad in Oregon, USA ‘Andrew-James Hanlon’.

By and large the people of Ireland and most of the media came out to express their anger at the senseless death and subsequent cover up of the murder of this 20 year old lad.

There is a deep seated dislike here in ireland for the ‘unknown’ , ‘change’ and the ’stranger’ and when that ’stranger seems to be taking away from you what you regard as yours this ‘dislike ‘ can turn to hatred.

With the economic change here in Ireland this is exactly what’s happening, the ’stranger’ is prepared to do the job cheaper sometimes below minimum wage, thus the Paddy ( who wont work for less) looses or doesn’t get the job.
Who can blame the employer it make good financial sense to him and he still gets the job done.

While my sympathies are with the families of these murdered men, I would bet the Irish Government and their Department of Foreign Affairs paid to repatriate these men back to Poland to their families.
This is something that was NOT done by the Department of Foreign Affairs for an Irish boy Andrew Hanlon. They did nothing to help the family.

This is where the anger starts, by actions like this the Government nurtures ill feeling.
When the Irish Government (who are terrified to be seen as recital on the World stage) will do for the Immigrant what they wont do for their own citizens, then something is dreadfully wrong.
I believe the Governments behavior plays a major role in race crimes here in Ireland and it is something they don’t or wont address , rather they deal with it Irish style and sweep it under the carpet.

By: Bock

Bock — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 09:36:02 +0000

What a truly stupid comment.

By: johnpaul

johnpaul — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 01:20:32 +0000

although i feel sorry for the 2 men that died people are murderd everyday in ballymun tallaght darndale where is your sorrow being expressed for these people , typical irish always for the stranger dont give a fuck about our own