Get Out Of My Town …
Nov 14th, 2008 | By Bock | Category: Bock rant, CrimeGet out of my town you fucking low-life.
This is our place.
Get out of my town you half-wit thug.
Our people are decent.
Get out of my town you parasite.
This is our home.
Get out of my town you inbred savage.
You don’t belong.
Get out of my town you vermin.
We are better than you.
Get out of my town you filth.
We know what you are.
Get out of my town you prick.
We detest you.
Get out of my town you virus.
You are less than an animal.
Get out of my town you cancer.
Get out of my town.
Get the fuck out of my town.
You don’t belong.
You are a piece of shit.
Get out of our town.
I have pondered over posting this, or any comment relating to the Shane Geoghegan murder, but here goes.
I am torn between the idea that you are either being ultra-cynical on this issue to promote your blog, or you are so emotionally blindsided by this particular senseless killing that you have lost objectivity.
What the murderers of Shane Geoghegan wanted to dispense was summary justice, at least in their eyes. Are they scumbags? undoubtedly, should they be convicted and locked away for life, absolutely.
But should we dispense with a tradition of law and order because you identify with the victim? No, never. We should never issue summary justice because it debases us as a society. It lowers us to their level.
I would rather these absolute cunts remained free than compromise a system that seeks to protect all of us, scumbag and scholar. The notion that “everyone knows who they are, lets evict them, intern them, kill them” is as arbitrary and ruthless as the act that ended Shane’s life in such a sudden and needless way.
Now before you go and (as usual) pick one point from what is said and ask “Where did I say this, that, the other” we both know that your posts regarding this have been personal, subjective and inflammatory, not necessarily a bad thing, but certainly not a mindset from which will spring a workable long-lasting solution.
It has been said elsewhere that the murder of a plumber’s apprentice in Dublin a while back did not raise many hackles. I would go further and say that had the intended victim of Shane Geoghegan’s murderers been killed, you wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow, much less tapped a keyboard.
Either murder is wrong or it isn’t, and if you are prepared to blur that line, you are in no way qualified to lecture on justice, because justice, at its base, is blind, and applies to everyone.
That’s nice and pompous of you Rob.
I believe it was you who advised us as follows in a previous comment:
The rule of law is actually not there to punish, not there to offer “comeuppanceâ€Â
It is there to protect us against bad people and injustice.
Now you’d rather let them remain free, would you? And are you offering to live beside them as well? Are you willing to see your children murdered in the interests of fairness?
Well done. Collect your harp, wings and halo at the desk.
Some fine points Rob. Particularly the following;
“The notion that ‘everyone knows who they are, lets evict them, intern them, kill them’ is as arbitrary and ruthless as the act that ended Shane’s life in such a sudden and needless way.”
When I’ve read or heard people say that, I’ve asked, “Ok, who killed him? Who pulled the trigger?”
I’ve yet to receive an answer. Fortunately we live in a democratic society where evidence is required before any convictions are made.
Really Bock, this is getting quite tiresome now.
what’s tiresome is hearing on the news that yet another person has been shot but nothing seems to being done by our government or police force to stop it.
what’s tiresome is a top garda going on national radio and explaining that the laws on gun control in this country are basically fucked and there’s nothing they can do to stop anyone applying for a licence for a glock or a semi automatic.
what’s tiresome is that these murderers have such a fearsome control over the innocents in their communities that possible witnesses are scared shitless to come forward and give evidence because they know they will be intimidated and attacked for standing up for justice against these thugs.
what’s tiresome is that we as a country have been sitting back on our arses and watching it on our flatscreens and widescreens for so long and going ”oh another killing, tut tut, pass the salt”.
what’s tiresome is people not getting passionate enough about it to actually fucking make our government introduce some useful watertight laws to deal with this wanton thuggery.
what’s tiresome is that our prisons are so full there’s nowhere to keep these fuckers.
what’s tiresome is that no matter what intelligent and rational suggestions to deal with it all are put forward they are blah blah’ed by government ministers ”we don’t have the money” ”its a question of balance” ”it’s unconstitutional” whatever.
what’s tiresome is that in years to come people will have let the name Shane Goeghan slip from their memories but his family and friends have to live with the pain of his passing forever.
With no disrespect to the Geoghan family. Why did it take a killing in a middle class area to highlight what’s happening in Limerick. Lots of innocent people have died at the hands of these thugs, but because they came from inner city backgrounds their deaths made little or sometimes no impact on society.
Rob, well done on your posting.
With ref to Get Out Of My Town I second that.
Hi. My name is Bock and I like long walks in the woods and poetry.
You’re right though. Be better if it rhymed, but, by fuck, you’re right.
Mrs O’, it’s been a long while ago since the Dooradoyle/Raheen area was ‘middle class’. I have lived here for going on twenty years now and most people here are, like me, working class, mostly from older working class areas, working in ordinary everyday jobs, trying our best to pay mortgages and doing the best we can for our kids.
“Highlight whats happening in Limerick”??
Have you been living under a rock?
I come from one of the ‘inner city backrounds’, and believe me, when one of our innocent people dies because of this filth which pervades our society, it Does have an impact.
The area was described on the TV news as a middle class area of Limerick. When I say impact, I’m not implying that people in Limerick dont care or feel whats happening around them. The impact on the higher members of the government and the higher members of the Garda plus a prime-time special is the impact I was talking about.
BTW, what does an ordinary job mean????
The term “middle class” has no meaning. There’s only working class and welfare class.
Yes Bock but it must be pointed out that not everyone on welfare is in this Welfare Class you speak of.
Anyone for some nose candy or Coke? This is what is keeping the “scumbags†in amour plated BMW’s and Hummers. I have never been a member of the “flog and hang “ brigade .However I am getting there! The “poor boy “ that shot Shane was probably high and from a problem Family .
So to the†Bock was ott ! “ people get your daughter to marry the killer and then you can mind him , and his extended family.
KB — I agree completely that not everyone on welfare is a member of the Welfare Class. Many are on welfare of necessity, and fully deserve to be supported by the State. The people I’m referring to are those who see Welfare as a career option and lifestyle choice. That, in my opinion, is what makes them a class within society.
It annoys me that you have to keep differentiating to certain people the difference between the Welfare Class and the welfare class. They’ve never been on welfare themselves I reckon.
I hope anger replaces fear as a result of this brutal murder. Keep this in mind people: it could have been you.
Bock – where do farmers figure in your scheme of things? Do you consider them working Class? there are thousands of them on telly tonight, yowling over some reduction in their hand-outs. One farmer’s wife I know describes her working week as follows:
Monday – lodge the ewe premium scheme cheque
Tuesday – lodge the milk cheque
Wednesday – lodge the disadvantaged area cheque
Thursday – lodge the headage payment cheque
Friday – lodge the suckler cheque
Saturday – shopping in Grafton Street
Sunday – go to a point-to-point and have a nice meal and a few drinks on the way home
Over to you, Bock for comment?
Nuts
-Nuts
Are you from a farming background?
I ask this because I am, and as long as I live I hope never to return to it. It’s (for small scale farmers anyway) a tough, shity job and, more often then not, financialy unrewarding. Sure there’s boys who know how to milk the system, but there’s plenty who don’t. You’re going into the whole ‘welfare class’ generalisation issue above.
Also I think you’ll find that the biggest recipients of agricultural subsidies is Agribusiness. Companies like Cargill, and Nestlé, collect subsidies for their huge industrial farms the same as if they were Joe Spudz from down the bog, and they claim in each country where they are installed.
I can’t comment on farmers. As far as I know, they come in two flavours: big and small. That’s it.
I know nothing else about them and therefore have no opinion.
Well Mrs O’ , if it was on the TV news then it must be true. You really do live under a rock.
And BTW you know fucking well what I mean by ordinary jobs!
-Bock
You forgot fun-size
C’est le Craic – my background is irrelevant, whatever it is. There are many shitty jobs out there. Driving a late night bus into Moyross. Cutting dead people out of their cars. Cleanng up the roadside after tinkers have moved on. Being a nurse. being a nightclub bouncer. Being a social worker taking children into care. None of those jobs are financially rewarding yet people do them.
Who buys all the farm land that comes on the market – at twelve times its economic value? yeah, petrol pump attendants.
Who drives all the 08 4×4’s at the ploughing championship – yeah, Dunne’s Stores check-out girls. Who drives €100,000 tractors on cheap subsidised diesel without any roadworthiness test or emissions control, holding up a nice line of little Nissans subject to all the checks? yeah, librarians. Who needs a grant regime to be induced not to spray animal wastes into rivers that ultimately become drinking water? yes, it’s the airline pilots of course, the rogues. Who gets installation aid to take over businesses with multi-million assets from their fathers, who get pensions? yep, its those bloody hairdressers, isn’t it? Who objects vociferously anytime cheap food is imported, yet bellows with rage if any overseas government protect their own interests by halting purchases from Ireland? That’s right, encyclopedia salesmen.
Farmers are absolute, utter, tax-dodging grasping avaricious unproductive arrogant parasites on taxpayers. If you think farming is financially unrewarding, try PAYE.
Nuts
I wasn’t having a go at you Nuts, I was saying that when we make those sweeping statements we end up getting into the ‘not all people on welfare are the Welfare Class’ arguement above. Of course there are those abusing, but there are certainly those who do not. I know that to be fact from experience. Being a farmer is like having your own business that never shuts. Even with all the technology involved now it still means that they end up working longer days than bus drivers, fireman, a night club bouncers, petrol pump attendants, shop staff, librarians, social workers, airline pilots or encyclopedia salesmen. That doesn’t give them the right to do any of the things you list, but not all farmers do. And if farming was so lucritive why haven’t you a hundred acres of your own? Why aren’t young people continuing the family farm?
I know the type you’re talking about, but those are generaly the ‘modern world view’ farmers who see it as just a commercial venture. Agribusiness. The land is nothing more than a ‘capital asset’, grants just another source of investment equity’. But don’t paint an entire profession and tradition black because of them, and even if you really want to anyway I think, this;
absolute, utter, tax-dodging grasping avaricious unproductive arrogant parasites on taxpayers
would more suitably describe Bankers.
As for PAYE, I paid it from 17 until I left Ireland, and if you ever suffer a bout of insomnia, I invite you to read up on the french tax system. You PAYE, and you PAYE, and you PAYE.
Pay no attention. He’s Nuts.
it’s about time they got out
My heart goes out to the collins family.
I can’t help but thinking about what message this sends with trials looming..
-mrs o’riordan
its not the area..plenty have happened in what the news would call a middle class area