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Remembrance Day — 11th November

This song was written by Eric Bogle for the Australian soldiers who suffered at Gallipoli.

I post it here because my grandfather fought at Gallipoli too, with the Royal Munster Fusiliers, and suffered for it all the days of his life.

 

I went to  Pery Square today with my daughter and visited this memorial for our shared ancestor, a man neither of us ever met.

Peace to him.

 

15 replies on “Remembrance Day — 11th November”

It’s a bank holiday here in France.
Gallipoli was desaster from start to finish. So many died becuase of the arrogance and incompetance of the officer class. The Turks erected a monument over ther to the allied fallen.

the green fields of france makes me cry…….it was my mothers favourite song……such a tune, such pain too…..now look what you’ve made me go and do…….sake…..

Thank you for going there today (yesterday by your time)
I remember seeing people laying wreaths there almost furtively when I was kid.It was like there was something shameful about honouring our dead.

One of my friends back in Limerick had a long out of print history of the Royal Munster Fusiliers (I wonder how many Limerick families had someone in that regiment?) and it was passed around like samizdat.

My own Grandfather fought with the Irish Guards and there were many stories spoken of by him and his comrades in hushed whispers so the children couldnt here of the horror they indured.

My husbands Great Uncle fought too under the British flag as many Irish men did.

As a resulf his brother and many friends disowned him, to many there was shame in taking the Kings shilling.

None the less, these men fought and many died in a hard unforgiving war where casualties were caused often by idiot leadership of men who never saw the horror and sadness of the front line.

They deserve to be honoured, they were Irelands fallen hero’s.

They joined up tho fight “for the freedon of small nations – to protect little Belgium” my mother told me once. Many others saw it as a way out of the poverty in Ireland. And to think that those who were lucky enough to come home were treated as traitors. It’s unbelievable.

Not so much unbelievable as an eloquent case for teaching history as it was.

I’d love to see a bit of role playing in the history class covering the period 1916 to 1923.

A risky strategy though. It could bring down the whole education system as we know it.

Indeed Bock, peace to him.

That first one there is moving, it jerked my tears for sure, watching all these young faces going off to the meat grinder of Gallipoli. Thanks for posting it. We have to remember this stuff and we have to remember it like this, like the horrific waste war is, not with some false sense of war-loving glory.

My grandfather joined the munsters in aug 1915 , just after galipoli i’d imagine , just as well or i probably wouldn’t be sitting here , the question must be asked , WHY DID ALL THESE MEN DIE FOR NOTHING ! some would have us believe they died fighting for freedom , hmm a freedom where women didn’t have the vote , where grinding poverty was endemic , and where the ultimate freedom ! the freedom to say NO i am not going to go to war and kill my fellow man , would see many a brave man imprisoned . my grandfather saw a lot of action with the munsters and was wounded on several occasions , shortly after my grandfather came home from the war carrying his wounds some nice gentlemen from the black and tans burned his little house to the ground ! we keep old grandads picture on the wall at home with his medals in a little case ! but you wont find me wearing any poppy’s !

Manuel — It’s a shared history we need to remember.

Devin — We hope things have moved on since then.

CFF — Did you honour your grandfather on remembrance day?

KB — I think they had many different reasons for joining up. Some did so out of principle, and some did so out of poverty. Some did it from a feeling of patriotism and we should remember them too.

Benny — As we know it, or as we knew it? I don’t know what it’s like these days.

Fan — Good. You informed yourself about a huge part of our common experience.

Sam — It’s good that we can honour their memory for who they were. Our grandfathers and their brothers who died as boys and became nobody’s ancestor.

Fred — The poppy is there to honour our dead. Take it back from the people who made it into a political symbol.

Bock , the poppy is there to honour the british empires war dead ! I live in the republic of Ireland! Where is our national day of remembrance for the victims of the empires deliberate starvation of a million Irish people ? I suggest you do some serious reading about the british empire and what it meant for the people who had to live under it !

None whatsoever bock !

just face facts , the War was a crime against humanity perpetrated against the poor by the disgustingly wealthy ! who to this day shamelessly gather at cenotaphs and grave yards in mock remembrance of the dead , while sitting on their ill gotten gains , in 20 years time will you be wearing a poppy in remembrance of britain’s dead in Iraq ?

I’ll wear the poppy in memory of my grandfather. If you’re a regular reader of this site, you’ll know my views on Iraq and many other things.

Give me credit for some intelligence.

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