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	<title>Comments on: World Financial and Banking Crisis &#8211; What Is Money?</title>
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		<title>By: dermotmoconnor</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2008/12/world-financial-and-banking-crisis-what-is-money/comment-page-1#comment-63604</link>
		<dc:creator>dermotmoconnor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What C&#039;est La Craic said. Do watch &quot;Money as Debt&quot; - it&#039;s one of the 10 must-watch documentaries about how the world really works!

While you&#039;re at it, try &quot;Arithmetic, Population and Energy&quot; by Albert Bartlett:

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000053112

Both sound dry, but they&#039;re not...quite accessible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What C&#8217;est La Craic said. Do watch &#8220;Money as Debt&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s one of the 10 must-watch documentaries about how the world really works!</p>
<p>While you&#8217;re at it, try &#8220;Arithmetic, Population and Energy&#8221; by Albert Bartlett:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guba.com/watch/3000053112" rel="nofollow">http://www.guba.com/watch/3000053112</a></p>
<p>Both sound dry, but they&#8217;re not&#8230;quite accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: Sniffle&#38;Cry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sniffle&#38;Cry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a phase Bock, a phase we&#039;re going through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a phase Bock, a phase we&#8217;re going through.</p>
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		<title>By: Builderfromhell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Builderfromhell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This series of Clips from Paul Grignon is very interesting. They explain how money is debt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This series of Clips from Paul Grignon is very interesting. They explain how money is debt.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8</a></p>
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		<title>By: gerrryo</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerrryo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe it would be better to ask where did the concept of money come from? when did it originate? prostitution is considered the oldest profession, is this the starting point of money? did a primative ancestor, in order to get his leg over create a system that is still screwing us to this today? 
also the more assets a person had eg land, cattle, goats etc the greater his prospects for suitable mates became.by acquiring more wealth, you increased prospects and power.a class system where women were considered chattel would only have encouraged this practise of accummulating wealth.
after thousands of years, this means of acquiring a mate or casual sex has evolved into what we know as money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe it would be better to ask where did the concept of money come from? when did it originate? prostitution is considered the oldest profession, is this the starting point of money? did a primative ancestor, in order to get his leg over create a system that is still screwing us to this today?<br />
also the more assets a person had eg land, cattle, goats etc the greater his prospects for suitable mates became.by acquiring more wealth, you increased prospects and power.a class system where women were considered chattel would only have encouraged this practise of accummulating wealth.<br />
after thousands of years, this means of acquiring a mate or casual sex has evolved into what we know as money.</p>
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		<title>By: C'est La Craic</title>
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		<dc:creator>C'est La Craic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Grignon&#039;s Money as Debt

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279

That&#039;s the second time a lengthy comment has dissapeared into hyperspace. Fuck it, I&#039;m not rewriting it. 

Also The Money Masters is quite interesting
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Grignon&#8217;s Money as Debt</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the second time a lengthy comment has dissapeared into hyperspace. Fuck it, I&#8217;m not rewriting it. </p>
<p>Also The Money Masters is quite interesting<br />
<a href="http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right. Money is still looking like a pretty vague, mystical concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. Money is still looking like a pretty vague, mystical concept.</p>
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		<title>By: C'est La Craic</title>
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		<dc:creator>C'est La Craic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good documentary on the Federal reserve. I don&#039;t think we&#039;re so different since the ECB.

Money as debt.
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279

They don&#039;t lend anything. A &#039;service&#039; perhaps but thats all and you pay for it. It&#039;s an illusion. Smoke, mirrors and interest. But you will exchange your time, the fruit of your labour and real wealth for it.
How many of us were told how money works in school? About fractional reserves? Why not?
In my opinion it is because Theonomics, like Theology, likes to explain itself to those initiates who choose to invest in it, be it at the seminary or the business school. It dosn&#039;t do to have the profane asking to many questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good documentary on the Federal reserve. I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re so different since the ECB.</p>
<p>Money as debt.<br />
<a href="http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279</a></p>
<p>They don&#8217;t lend anything. A &#8217;service&#8217; perhaps but thats all and you pay for it. It&#8217;s an illusion. Smoke, mirrors and interest. But you will exchange your time, the fruit of your labour and real wealth for it.<br />
How many of us were told how money works in school? About fractional reserves? Why not?<br />
In my opinion it is because Theonomics, like Theology, likes to explain itself to those initiates who choose to invest in it, be it at the seminary or the business school. It dosn&#8217;t do to have the profane asking to many questions.</p>
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		<title>By: EolaÃ­</title>
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		<dc:creator>EolaÃ­</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An unknown promise without parameters. Why people always wanted more money always puzzled me as it always has the ability to be worthless. You&#039;d be better off growing a cabbage and eating it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An unknown promise without parameters. Why people always wanted more money always puzzled me as it always has the ability to be worthless. You&#8217;d be better off growing a cabbage and eating it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOM -- Thanks for the reference to Paul Grignon. I must see if I can track down his film.

However, I still have a problem with definition of money as debt, unless you can define what debt is.

EolaÃ­ -- What kind of promise is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOM &#8212; Thanks for the reference to Paul Grignon. I must see if I can track down his film.</p>
<p>However, I still have a problem with definition of money as debt, unless you can define what debt is.</p>
<p>EolaÃ­ &#8212; What kind of promise is it?</p>
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		<title>By: EolaÃ­</title>
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		<dc:creator>EolaÃ­</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that it goes as far as trust. It&#039;s a promise. As meaningful and meaningless as promises are. And as valuable and worthless regardless of your trust.

-&lt;em&gt;But you promised to let me on the bus&lt;/em&gt;
-No I didn&#039;t
-&lt;em&gt;Well Mick promised me you would when I gave him a cabbage.&lt;/em&gt;
-Mick&#039;s promises aren&#039;t worth shite
-&lt;em&gt;But he said you promised him you would when he gave you a cup and saucer&lt;/em&gt;
-My promises aren&#039;t worth shite either. I gave them to Johnno to mind and he lost most of them down the casino</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that it goes as far as trust. It&#8217;s a promise. As meaningful and meaningless as promises are. And as valuable and worthless regardless of your trust.</p>
<p>-<em>But you promised to let me on the bus</em><br />
-No I didn&#8217;t<br />
-<em>Well Mick promised me you would when I gave him a cabbage.</em><br />
-Mick&#8217;s promises aren&#8217;t worth shite<br />
-<em>But he said you promised him you would when he gave you a cup and saucer</em><br />
-My promises aren&#8217;t worth shite either. I gave them to Johnno to mind and he lost most of them down the casino</p>
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