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By: Il Vaticano e gli abusi nella chiesa irlandese | Minitrue

Il Vaticano e gli abusi nella chiesa irlandese | Minitrue — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:47:12 +0000

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By: John Rock

John Rock — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:30:40 +0000

In answer to raphael- I was told a couple of years ago that on a ”pilgrimage’ to Upton (in a vain attempt to exorcise bad memories) that Johnson left the order.
Lacking a spirit of forgiveness despite extensive therapy i could quite cheerfully machine -gun that guy without compunction. He was a mad dog.

By: He came along the following morning and put holy communion in my mouth | Joe Scanlon

Thu, 28 May 2009 11:16:21 +0000

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By: KenOB

KenOB — Mon, 25 May 2009 16:00:50 +0000

@ Paul,
Kind of got your point, fair enough but, you are in fact associating by default Homosexuality with Paedophilia in both of your comments. I do not think we want a situation where your average Mo is getting bashed either physically or metaphorically by people disgusted by the actions of religious orders/paedos/the state.

By: Polonius

Polonius — Fri, 22 May 2009 08:23:49 +0000

The Church’s control of education is still intact. Primary teacher education is virtually denominational in its entirety. Boards of Management of schools, as structured, have a certain number of nomineees by the patron, i.e. the local Bishop, which ensures conformity. Employment of teachers is controlled by boards who shun candidates without Rel Ed. diplomas. The Rules for National Schools allow for half an hour of RE per day. This rule is breached continuously with all sorts of religious events of a protracted nature. Does the DES stand its ground in implementing its own rules? Certainly not. This is the result of a supine political class who have never challenged this dominance. Some notable exceptions have appeared of course: Browne, Kemmy, Gregory, Spicer, but the wilderness created by the ruling old boy class of church educated patriarchs has soon drowned them out.

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 22 May 2009 08:21:09 +0000

Bock. Apologies – extremely upset and disturbed and didnt express self clearly – trying to make a point about deference to organisations when in fact organisations are made up of individuals who often get involved in those organisations for reasons of self interest – politicians in it for money, bankers……terrorists….priests…..the point trying to make is never ever defer to an organisation / institution when your instincts are telling you otherwise. I have no problem with gays either – my brother in law was just talking about gay life in europe. I do have a problem with gays or anybody else who uses the banner of an organisation to pursue their own self interest with abject disregard for the people the organisation is there to serve. If it doesnt feel right do not defer – deference is what has got us into the various messes we are in. We need to trust our decent instincts – see the world as it is not as how it is spun. Our deference is the most powerful weapon these bastards have – the deny until hell freezes over principle – it works because we defer. More understanding of how organisations and individuals work will make people more confident, challenge more likely, reduce that deference and keep a check on evil.

By: Locky

Locky — Fri, 22 May 2009 07:47:49 +0000

Tim May, thanks for that link to the Catholic League. I copied and pasted the victims’ evidence from the other article and sent it to them.

As regards Bertie’s sweetheart deal with the religious orders, surely all collections by church organisations must be boycotted until they agree to a renegotiation. I’m not a churchgoer, but if I were I know I’d pass on the plate next Sunday without contributing.

By: JR

JR — Fri, 22 May 2009 00:35:41 +0000

As they have taken the vow of chastity then perhaps enforced chemical castration for all priests at seminary school would relieve them from the sick urges they feel.

That scumbag O’Grady has fled the country, whoever gave him a passport should be charged with aiding and abetting child abuse. Pity the poor unsuspecting country that now has him, and are probably unaware of his foul deeds.

One more point though, for those who think that this is all in the past maybe a spell answering the phone at childline or the samaritans and you will understand that child abuse including rape is still going on today up and down the country and not just at the hands of non family members..

By: Bock

Bock — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:27:04 +0000

Child abuse has nothing to do with gays. I’d select gays as my preferred child minders any day.

By: Paul

Paul — Thu, 21 May 2009 22:24:33 +0000

Jerry.
My (German) brother in law is gay. He told me 15 years ago that the priesthood had been a preferred career path for gays in europe for a long, long time, not for reasons of faith.