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Kate Middleton Nurse Commits Suicide After DJ Prank Call

Jacinta Saldanha committed suicide after unwittingly putting through a prank call from a couple of Australian DJs fishing for information about Kate Middleton.  As a consequence, the two DJs have been taken off the air, they’ve been subjected to sustained abuse and accused of causing the nurse’s death.

What are we to deduce from this?  Several things, in my opinion.

First, the Australian DJs, Mel Greig and Michael Christian, are utter twats for trying to pry into the private medical details of any woman, whether that woman happens to be a member of the British royal family or not.

Second, the hospital must have very poor procedures in place if it leaves a nurse to answer the phones without instructions about dealing with queries, given the high profile of its patients.

Third, the general public are idiots.  How else could you explain the widespread belief that the prank call caused the nurse’s death?  It has to be an epidemic of stupidity.

Of course the twat DJs made the call, but how on earth could they have foreseen that anyone would commit suicide because of it?  It’s ridiculous.  Clearly, Jacinta Saldanha should never have been placed in the position where she was answering calls, but more than that, she must have had an extremely vulnerable and fragile personality.  Did the King Edward VII hospital give any consideration to the question of who should be answering calls about Kate Middleton?  Did they provide any guidance or training?

And who precisely pout this poor woman under pressure?  Was it the Australian DJs or was it the world’s worst gutter press?

To my mind, it seems that the two Australian DJs, while being utter tools for trying to extract private information about a woman’s health, could not possibly have foreseen how fragile Jacinta Saldanha was or how she would react once their trick was exposed, and yet this case has become an excuse for every sanctimonious, self-important, self-appointed gobshite to rain down condemnation and opprobrium on their heads.

If anything, it says more about the empty-headed vacuity of your average social-network halfwit than it does about stupid DJs.  It also shows how easy it is to raise a lynch-mob as long as you keep the logic to a minimum.

 

33 replies on “Kate Middleton Nurse Commits Suicide After DJ Prank Call”

I disagree on the first regard. Like it or not the royals are our executive branch of government, they’re public figures the same as anyone involved with the Obama administration. I personally don’t believe executive power should be determined by who’s vagina you fell out of but until we can vote in a legitimate democratically elected executive, the royals are fair game for the media and not entitled to the same standard of privacy a private citizen would enjoy because there is a public interest in preserving the right of media and citizens to criticize government. This was a comedy show, and this was how they chose to exercise that right, its not their fault that nurse has a few screws missing and dropped the ball.

Apparently, the two DJ’s ran this prank by the stations lawyers before they aired it so they can hardly be held at fault for what transpired afterwards. Yeah, it might be a bit crass, but when was the last time you listened to, say, Today FM before half four in the afternoon? From Ian Dempsey on the breakfast show right through to Tony Fenton fucking off home late in the afternoon, it’s bubble gum for the brain delivered to the masses. You can’t really fault these two for delivering what their listeners want to hear, especially after having the piece vetted. It sounds to me like they have a show on par with that tosser Ray Foley whose main aim is to annoy the thinking individual. Hospital management, in my opinion, seems to be at fault for not having covered the telephone access adequately. This is the hospital of choice for the Royal family, and they have used the facility often over the years. Surely the top brass there should have put the more competent and experienced staff members in the picture on how to handle the media, and especially on use of the telephones? Do they not have procedures in place for situations such as this? The two DJs in question told of how surprised they were that they pulled it off, despite their awful attempt at impersonating a posh English accent. Granted, no-one could’ve imagined the final outcome, but such is their importance in England, I’m sure the nurse was under a lot of pressure after this little faux pas, and again, hospital top brass should’ve done all they can to shield her from the fallout. It’s hardly her fault either. But I do agree 100% with your third point. The general public, who lap up this daily dose of manure over the airwaves, have set the bar. And by God, it’s low. But someone’s gonna pay. That you can count on. It’ll be interesting, if not unfortunate, so see whose head will be on the block after this. That such a calamity would lead to someone taking their own life surely ranks is as a needless tragedy. And now it’s a tabloid sensation. That’s almost the most tragic part. Copies of these gutter rags will be shifted by the shitload, thanks to our sadly deceased star of the show.

Maybe if the workd were not so concerened about high profile people and their lives this would not have happened. Because of our culture the nurse probably felt horrid.Had it been a nonhigh profile person it would not hve matterd. Shame on the clebbrity obsessd culture.

All of this would have blown over in a couple of weeks had Jacinta Saldanha NOT committed suicide. It is a serious matter that the hospital she worked for was not aware of her fragile state of mind. This alone is the most compelling reason that the entire event turned out the way it did. The Radio DJ’s were performing what materializes on stage all the time it’s show business. To give any legs to the argument that the DJ’s are responsible for this poor lady death would be to suggest Comedians all over the world create mass suicide because their jokes offend, hurt and humiliate individuals.

What you should look at it is why she commited suicide?. It wasn’t the prank that helped her commit suicide because she wouldve done it straight away when she knew of it. It was probably the British public and their remarks to her that pushed the button. Dum hospital trying to blame the auzie DJ’s on this just man up because lilkely it was the British hospital staff or public that condemned her

Listened to the recording, it was clearly a prank for the sake of a prank, nothing too revealing was said

What was the point of the original outrage

To be fair, the misfortuate nurse (& being that of a caring for type profession) could have been very vulnerable and perhaps was severely reprimanded by her superiors.

Years ago wasn’t Gareth O’Callaghan when on 2FM had been in court twice for his prank calls, he told me other situations had to be settled out of court.

It all depends on who you play the joke on. It is a form of victimisation in a way.

Those two Dj’s should resign and choose another
” profession ” if they have any conscience at all . That’s beside the fact they will , rightly so , always be remembered as the two irresponsible , idiotic , 2Day fm DJ’s.

Bock – you’re bang-on as usual, I was hoping you’d address this story. The world is full of pranksters, and we all enjoy a well-executed harmless prank, particularly when the joke is on someone well known to the point of celebrity, be it major, minor or royal. Remember when Mike Murphy pranked Gay Byrne successfully many years ago? All of Ireland enjoyed it.
The question is for precisely what reason did the nurse decide to end her own life, and was her decision motivated solely by the prank. Either, as is being suggested here, she had a propensity to act that way due to her particular personality, or cultural factors were involved – perhaps she doesn’t appreciate what is being described as a humiliation visited upon her by the pranksters in the way that we Irish and Brits are conditioned to do, ie laugh it off and get over it.
Some investigation is warranted to ensure it doesn’t happen again, wherever that may lead.

@Kyle – the Royals are ‘our executive branch of government’? Wow. That’s new. ‘Like the Obama administration’ – that’s even newer. Please explain…

Turns out that by law in Australia you are obliged to identify yourself in this situation, they got away with it because it was an overseas call. That at least means that some thought went into making the law.
It’s all fine saying that celebs take the chance of being pranked but some anynomous nurse shouldn’t be a victim.
She obviously was a fragile sort but no real malice was intended by the DJs I wouldn’t think.
Just out of curiosity imagine if something serious had happened to the Princess ( if she is one??) and medical details were given out live over the air how would they have reacted?
Anyway just seems like a tragedy for a family that couldn’t have expected it.

Before anything else occurs, I feel the hospital management need to look at both their own security procedures and their staff employment requirements. This is the King Edward 7th Hospital (for Officers and Gentlemen) for Christ’s sake. Members of the British royal family have been treated here almost exclusively since it opened in the 19th century. Historically, when any royal was admitted, a news blackout was imposed on the press until such time as “good news” ie. a birth or a recovery from illness could be handed out.
Quite what went on here is anyone’s guess, but there are several questions that need answering.
Why was this nurse allowed to answer the ‘phone?
What security clearance did she have that allowed her to dicuss the medical details of a very senior royal personage?
Why was she apparently taken in by the bloody awful “English upper-class accent”?
What drove her to kill herself, for what appears to be a relatively trivial incident?
These all appear to be questions that, amongst others, should be placed at the doorstep of the hospital management.
It was a childish prank that went disastrously wrong. Sympathy has gone, rightly, to the poor nurse’s family, but I also felt really sorry for the two silly Aussie kids when they did their interview on telly today. I thought their obvious contrition was both genuine and heart-felt.
In my opinion, both the hospital and the radio station managements need to take a hard look at their procedures and should front up, instead of allowing their respective scape-goats to take the hit, but, with the aid of our guttersnipe press (with one or two honourable exceptions) what’s the betting this’ll never happen?

I think it’s astonishing hypocrisy on the part of the British press. While the Australian DJs could never have foreseen what might happen, the local hacks knew full well what sort of pressure the nurse would be subjected to, and yet they cranked up the hysteria.

The finger is pointing in the wrong direction.

Tragic and unforeseen outcome to a prank , being duped by ‘The Colonial Hooligans’ would have been very hard to stomach for our ‘Pommie’ friends.S’pose they gonna hate us for a while now, until the next free holiday , that is .

The hospital must share in the blame, but I wouldn’t be too quick to let the radio station off the hook. They had the call thoroughly vetted prior to broadcasting it to check what their legal standing would be in the event of a fallout. They clearly knew that they were walking a fine line with it. They could never have predicted that the nurse would end her life, but they must have known there would be fairly dire consequences for somebody at least. They clearly didn’t care too much what those consequences might be. Perhaps they assumed that somebody would merely lose their job. What a pity. Never mind. Ratings are more important.

The nurse went from being a proud professional one day, probably quite excited at having spoken to the Queen and Prince Charles, to being an idiot (in her own mind at least) or worse the next day. She may even have been facing disciplinary action for the first time in a blemish free career. Very quickly her life fell apart, and it’s not difficult to see how somebody who is otherwise stable and capable could find themselves in a suicidal state given what happened. I don’t buy the “she must have had a fragile personality” line.

One less weak minded, pathetic person in society.
I was bullied as a child to the point where many would have committed suicide or gone to the school shooting but because my parents actually raised me and taught me right from wrong I didn’t.
The DJs should not be blamed, only this idiot, selfish woman should be.

Why do you feel the need to blame anyone, especially a woman who is now dead? Obviously your parents never taught you the value of not behaving like a self-righteous turd.

I blame the woman as it was an unfair and selfish thing to do to her family.
Nothing self-righteous about that.
As for a turd you needn’t look any further than the mirror to see one.

In the first place, be very sure that this means that the media used was not a prank, it was a ploy. This type of information gathering is standard practice with the gutter press and it is approved behind the scenes by the media institution. Convieniently enough, they call it a prank in the effort to make it seem that the DJ’s are the sole authors while in actual fact it is a well known ploy to grab news —- YES — aquiring all sorts of private details by lying and illicit means about public figures to fuel scandal and gossip. What for these media thugs is just a juicy piece of gossip to fill a news slot, can mean someone’s job or at least a centure, and this is PROBABLY the root cause of Jacinta Saldana’s fate as she became acutely aware of what she saw as a major failure in duty.
I am a retired nurse myself and I know that some nurses have a very sharp sense of duty — and failure of duty. Jacinta rings of that kind of thinking to me. As you say, a vunerable personallity.
Nurses are not particularly well drilled in how to cope with the media and they are usually just cautioned to be careful especially when thay are looking after a person of public interest and not to give out any information. Media personel on the other hand are very experienced at negotiating the barriers. They can lie, conjole and trick and have even photographed inside the ward on some occassions.
I had one run-in with the media some years ago when I had someone in the public eye to care for, and I tell you for sure that they are extremely deceptive and cunning and it is dangerous to enter ANY level of discussion with them — to even mention the weather or some other unrelated topic could be looking for trouble. In my own case, my unguarded stance could have resulted in a media circus in our hospital but mercifully we escaped that consequence by kind providence. I felt very ashamed and fit to resign after the event but somehow I survived.
As for the lynch mob: Well, can media people complain about that? Many is the lynch mob that they themselves have whipped up in the past over various issues.
Speaking now from my own experience,the only attitude to take to them is that they are rattlesnakes not to be trusted in any circumstances.

I have a feeling Berts opinion on bullying is when he says something so obnoxious that people as him why he felt he had to say it, he feels as if he is being bullied

your quite right when you say there were other factors at work here .back in 81 i moved to london and my first job was in the king edward as a kp with accomedation in the same building on weymonth street where the poor nurse s body was found.i was only there 2 weeks when my manager sent me up to the top floor to free up the lift for a delivery,up i went not realising the operating theatre was on the same floor and was bolliked almightly by surgeons for intruding in a sterile enviroment.2 days later i was brought into my managers offie and given my first verbal warning even thought he d sent me up there.fast foreward to mrs saldahna and you can bet your life she was seriously reprimanded i dont belive the hospitals statement that they took no actions against the nurses she may have been threatened with the sack loss of accomedation etc who knows what sort of pressures she endured in the 3 days before she took her life

John murphy…. I entirely agree with you…. I’m guessing this will unfold that way in the course of time….

She was from Mangalore and probably unable to distinguish between an upper class accent and someone putting on an upper class accent. And why is her state of mind categorised as ” fragile ” ? She’s from the East and the concept of loss of face doesn’t include fragility as far as I know. I agree that a rich private hospital should have trained receptionists.

All the language of ‘foreseeability’ in the communications from the radio station and the djs since the incident screams ‘lawyer’ to me. Foreseeability of the damage occasioned is the test for negligence in an action in tort for breach of duty of care. The spin-doctors are hard at work to plant the idea in the public domain that what occurred wasn’t a foreseeable consequence of what they initiated. They obviously see this having a chance of getting before a jury some time in the future.

@Bert As I’m sure you know, the internet is available worldwide and Google can bring the family of that unfortunate woman to this site and therefore exposure to your ill informed and aggressive stance on suicide. I won’t resort to name calling as this may cause you to be angry at me instead of heeding the point I’m trying to make. In the meantime I urge you to read up on Suicide it’s causes and the mental state of the persons who find themselves contemplating it.

Hi Bock, This thing is coming into prominence again. The radio station involved is attempting to block an investigation into this matter and the nurse’s family have protested an award being given to one of the DJ’ s. Maybe you can figure a more concise story than I can. My source so far was Yahoo News Australia. I still insist that this was no prank but rather a deliberate unethical ploy. (But what would the media know about ethics?).

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