The Irish Abroad Don’t Need a Vote Because they have Facebook, says Fine Gael Mini-Minister, Brian Hayes.

For sheer, self-righteous sliminess, it’s hard to beat Fine Gael’s  Brian Hayes, mini-minister in the Department of Finance.  These jobs used to be called Parliamentary Secretary until some politicians decided they liked the sound of the word Minister, and that’s why people like Brian are now routinely addressed as such by our obsequious, grovelling media.

Brian Hayes has always annoyed me, though I have to admit it’s not for any particular reason that I can nail down.  I think it’s just that he has an annoying head on him, and that he’s mastered the art of sounding certain when he hasn’t the slightest idea what he’s talking about.

A born politician, in other words.

Brian has an irritating way of patronising people, and a condescending demeanour that doesn’t seem to be supported by any tangible achievements in his life, apart from becoming a politician.  He worked as a teacher, like many others of his kind, for about half an hour before dragging himself onto the gravy train at the age of 26, and there he has clung ever since, talking down to us ordinary folk, despite any obvious life experience to account for his pomposity.

This is a young(ish) man in a hurry.  Brian believes himself to be on the fast track and as such is wheeled out in all sorts of dire emergencies to bullshit the media on a scale previously only observed in Fianna Fáil circles, but his latest outburst is a tour-de-force of political gobshitery.

Brian, you see, doesn’t seem to understand the most fundamental principle that gives him his current cosseted role as Mini-Minister.  Brian, apparently, fails to grasp the difference between a parliamentary democracy and social media.  And let me tell you, this is not a great thing in a mini-minister.  The very least we’d expect from those we elect to government is an elementary understanding of how democracy works, no?

Oh dear Jesus.  This is not sounding good.  What on earth has Brian done now?

Let me tell you what Brian did next.

Brian, it seems, did an interview with the Irish Post, in which he expressed the view that Irish people living abroad don’t really need a vote in Irish elections because — go on — tell me why the Irish emigrants don’t need a vote?

That’s right.  They have Facebook.  According to the Irish Post, Brian believes that the growth of social media has eliminated their need for a political voice at home.

Think about that now.  No need for a vote.  No need for elections as long as they can tweet and post on Facebook.

How long before Brian and the rest of his Fine Gael colleagues decide Facebook is enough democracy for Irish citizens living in Ireland and we don’t need a vote either?

Brian Hayes Fine Gael emigrants Facebook

I always hated the Blueshirt abuse thrown at Fine Gael.  I always thought it was moronic, but the more I see of their plans to shrink democracy, the more I believe that I was wrong.  Maybe these people really are as right-wing as their detractors accuse.  Maybe they really are willing to suspend democracy.

I think Brian Hayes has inadvertently lifted the veil, and what we see behind it is not a pretty sight.



21 thoughts on “The Irish Abroad Don’t Need a Vote Because they have Facebook, says Fine Gael Mini-Minister, Brian Hayes.

  1. Bock you said you couldn’t nail down why you disliked Brian Hayes,I’ll tell you it’s that smug look the tosser carries with him at all times.I have always thought he knew fuck all about nothing,and now he’s gone and proved it.He should do like Kenny does and get someone to write down what he’s going to say before he opens his mouth.Fucking moron.

  2. Mini-minister’, now that is class, excellent.
    However, I bet his take on facebook will eventually be taken up by the political processes in many countries and, I bet facebook will jump on this one too.

  3. I think Brian Hayes was talking through his hat when he said that emigrants don’t need a vote because they have social media. He got that wrong. Emigrant don’t need a vote at home, full stop, period, ever. Why should you be entitled to a say in the democratic workings of a country that you no longer reside in or pay taxes in? I speak as some one who spent a good number of years living abroad and still work abroad. If our emigrants are so concerned about life here then come back, or they could, you know integrate in their new countries, and vote there. You know like how we whinge and bitch about immigrants not integrating here.

    As for FG attempting to shrink democracy, how many times Bock have you exercised your right to vote in a Seanad election? How many times have you read through the various manifestos of Seanad Eireann members? Now as I said I spent a good number of years away and still work abroad so maybe I miss those elections. When are they held? When is the next Seanad Eireann election due, I’ll make sure I’m home to cast my vote.

    What do these democratically elected Senators do for their €65k salaries plus expenses of upto €38k? What purpose do these doyens of democracy serve? Martin McAleese was a Senator, but he needed the money after so many years in the Áras. Other Senators have been found guilty of claiming for motor expenses whilst at the same time vouching that the same vehicle was off the road due to the lack of an NCT cert.

    Save The Seanad!!!!

  4. @No.8 – are you classified as ordinarily resident in Ireland. If not, then be cautious about ‘returning to vote’. You’d be breaking the law and could be charged with election fraud.

    Here’s FGs stance on the subject just prior to the GE, and dropped like a brick once the election was won :

    As far as Brian Hayes is concerned, no jury required to judge that character.

  5. Well this is a larf! I got curious about what was leading BH to think social media could be a replacement for normal democratic processes.

    The 1st visit was to his twitter page and his last online ‘twittering’ was more than a year ago. Had a look at his wordpress site and comments seem to be turned off so no engagement there, and then to his FB page which apart from one or two likes for some typical political postings seems pretty dead as well.

    Of the few challenges/questions asked of him via FB, no response.

    I don’t think this is unusual. Just recently a FG TD from outside of my constituency posted an article on her website pontificating about how cuts to a local hospital here were for the better. I commented asking a very polite/reasonable question and the comment was never published. I think many politicians are quite happy for the electorate to be directed down online channels, which are then easily ignored.

  6. No.8 I think it is quite insulting to me and many many thousands like me for someone like Brian Hayes to utter such shit, and know he will not face any sanction.For your information No.8,I think only 4 European Union countries don’t allow their overseas citizens to vote and that includes Ireland.You asked what Senators did for their money? I will ask what Hayes does for his money,and will bet it’s more than a Seneator earns.The truth is he wouldn’t be tolerated in a properly functioning democracy.

  7. So you want to cast your vote in a democracy that isn’t functioning properly?

    Hayes may be a tool, but he’s an elected tool. Not only do we not get a chance to elect the Seanad, their election is deemed beneath non graduates of certain universities. FG can hardly be charged with shrinking democracy when the vast majority have no say in the elections for the said body.

  8. I’m open to any option as long as it is progressive and actually improves the democratic process in this country.

    If you want a vote in a country or process you must be prepared to live with the outcome, very easy to cast votes from abroad in haste and repent at leisure.

  9. I’m glad we agree on one thing No.8 ie Hayes is a tool.He is a prime example why Ireland is not a functioning democracy as in Scandanavia or even the UK.In Ireland it is very seldom a Government minister or TD are held to account.It is a very rare event indeed when anyone does resign.As far as I am aware the Seanad is the only way an over zealous can be kept in check,and in it’s present form doesn’t work very well,but it is not a reason to throw it away.Just reform it.Better the devil you know etc.

  10. Whether it’s reformed or abolished is no skin off my nose. But to accuse FG of shrinking democracy and being willing to suspend democracy because of the utterances of one fool is a bit much.

  11. People keep saying that the elitist nature of teh voting system is a good reason to abolish the Senate. But it’s also a good reason to reform it.

  12. Hayes and his ilk will never countenance votes for overseas Irish citizens.
    It would mean a huge new swathe of votes making election decisions based on the good of the country in its totality.
    The parish pump/pork barrel politics of voting for some party because their TD in Kerry etc. got the locals a grant for a new GAA dressing room in Skibbereen would cease to be relevant.
    Hayes is one arrogant little git, representative of his entire class (of teachers turned politicians)

  13. Hard to see why a TD in Kerry would get a grant for a new dressing room in Skibbereen, unless he suffered from a severe geographical malfunction.

  14. I don’t hate many people, as I’m thankfully not the type. But I truly despise this little fellow, for all of the reasons mentioned above. The arrogance and smuggery, the sneer, the head on him in general. He reminds me of the “Old Man” from Texas Chansaw Massacre, especially in the dinner scene.

    I get the impression that if this slimy gastropod was left to his own devices, he could over time become a very dangerous individual indeed.

  15. He resembles Billy Zane anyone? Perhaps this photo does not do the resemblence justice. Zane who himself primarily plays unlikeable villains. See what has been done to F. of Information unnoticed – democracy here is indeed shrinking..

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