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Wayne Dundon and Nathan Killeen Convicted of Murdering Roy Collins

When the Dundons arrived in Limerick from England, they brought with them a vile pestilence that infected our town for years.  I don’t know what precisely was wrong with that family, but I can guess.   After all, we know for instance that their father, Ken Dundon, brought 12-year-old Wayne to witness a brutal killing.

Nobody knows how Ken Dundon became Satan.  He was from a decent, hardworking family, but he was a thug, and he married Anne “Doll” McCarthy, daughter of John the man.  Annie was the grand-daughter of Bridgie McCarthy, a nice old lady who described herself as a tinker woman.

Many Limerick people remember Bridgie with affection as a regular in Joe Malone’s pub.  She was a tough old lady who looked like Sitting Bull, but she had a sense of decency and everyone in Limerick respected her.  Many also remember that travellers were barred from Joe Malone’s, but not by the proprietor.  Bridgie the matriarch insisted that no members of her family should ever be served in the pub, in case they caused trouble, as they were inclined to do, and the matriarch’s word was law.  Every night, Bridgie’s son, John the Man, turned up with a van to collect his mother.  John peeled off however much he owed from a fat roll of notes and took the old lady home.

Anne Doll and Ken DUndon moved to London, they had six kids and Annie became a junkie.  She made the mistake of having an affair, and Ken brought his eldest son, Wayne with him to witness the brutal killing of his rival.   Wayne was twelve years old.

You get the idea.

This crowd arrived back in Limerick about fifteen years ago and imposed themselves on the local scumbags who had never seen such ferocity in their lives.  They seemed to be without sympathy, without remorse, without mercy, and they forced the local thugs to do things they had never dreamed of doing, even by the brutal standards of their ignorant upbringing.

Sadly, such stories are the life and soul of cynical reporters, who jumped all over the Limerick stereotype, and to be clear about that, it wasn’t only the Dublin media who were culpable.  All the other local hacks gleefully bought into the lazy, work-saving narrative they found dumped in their laps.  And so it happened that those who reported for the Examiner, the Independent, the Star, the Mirror and, disgracefully, the Limerick Leader, recycled every stupid criminal-related rumour that came their way because it was easier than working.

And of course, RTE lapped it up, as did the likes of Paul Williams, a man who wouldn’t know a serious criminal investigation if it shot him between the eyes.

It was a PR disaster for Limerick, a town of decent, creative people and it infected our lives for at least a decade and a half, thanks to the ignorance of the reporters who kept pushing it, including those from RTE and from local papers such as the Limerick Leader.  Nobody is guilt-free in this cynical narrative.

We marched against the bastards but it made no difference to the local and national hacks.

Thankfully, Wayne Dundon and the deranged young killer, Nathan Killeen, have now both received life sentences for the murder of Roy Collins, but we in Limerick are faced with a challenge we didn’t either create or deserve.

For the sake of our children, we have had to throw off an unfair image created to a large extent by incompetent and unprincipled journalists, many of whom come from within our own community.  Bad, cynical  journalists who used the McCarthy-Dundon story as a stepping stone to personal advancement without regard to the consequences for their friends and families.

Shame on them.

As for the McCarthy-Dundons, I feel certain that their great-grandmother would be ashamed of them too.

24 replies on “Wayne Dundon and Nathan Killeen Convicted of Murdering Roy Collins”

Great story. So well written. Wanted to stop reading after one or two paragraphs as I was very busy on Face book lol, but seriously though the way your writing flows and your sense of conviction kept me in there.

So true. The Irish media is still largely bias against Limerick, and this is not a chip.

The murderous activities of Dublin based criminal gangs are hardly covered. A six year old boy was shot recently, shred wad the outrage, the yards of column inches, the media circus that resulted from the alleged kidnapping of the two Ryan’s and the subsequent gang violence.
Some 75% of murders in Ireland this year have occurred in Dublin, you’d never know. Imagine the headlines if that were true of Limerick. Yes there was a serious gang problem but the media reported on nothing but the negativity.
The hugely positive, and in my opinion successful, City of Culture is ignored by the national media, yet watch the coverage of Galway Arts Week.
The Limerick Leader is a rag. It offers weekly coverage of local “VIPs” at various events, always the same people. It offers no indepth reporting. It reports on the banality of local politicians with an unquestioning zeal. Is it actually a news paper?
I’d be shocked if all this negativity hadn’t affected inward investment and jobs.

Thanks for your story. Very interesting reading. Such a pity they came back and destroyed our lovely Limerick. Totally agree Mrs McCarthy would be ashamed today.

It’s a little unfair to heap all the blame on journalists.The Press is in business to make money and the hacks know how to sex up a story to sell papers but where where the Gardai when all this was festering?

Lovely Limerick indeed!
I was born in the city sixty-four years ago, (Bedford Row to be exact) and the last time I visited my home town I was the victim of an unprovoked attack on the footpath just outside the Limerick Leader office. It was just after two o’clock pm when a well dressed man in his mid-twenties just lunged at me, grabbed me by the throat and chocked me onto my knees until I nearly blacked out! Then he just walked off as if nothing had happened!
Nobody on the busy street came to my assistance during or after the assault, and there wasn’t a policeman in sight.

Open your eyes Bock, Limerick City is a dirty, violent kip, full of drunks, junkies, beggars, teeming with scumbags of all sorts, plus a myriad of home-grown and foreign knackers.

Unprovoked attacks never happen anywhere else, right? I don’t know how we all manage to have a good life here and raise fine decent children. It must be a miracle, praise the Lord.

When I was just a Boy in Limerick my neighbor was John Joe Higgins (The sweep) from Kileely, I was just 10 Years old and My parents allowed me to be his assistant we would travel to Raheen and Castletroy to Clean the Chimneys and Cut the Lawns of who were to me Limerick Wealthy. When I asked John Joe about these place he would describe them as places where the Birds used to Fly upside down so the would not Shit on the Houses. Part of my reward for my work other than the Half Crown wages was a trip to Bat O Brien’s public house( Joe Malone’s) . I will never forget the woman who had her Pint of Guinness and a Pipe in her Mouth, And if the saying that your face is a Map of your Life the Woman had a full Passport. She wore A Black Shawl with the little black Candle wicks trimming the edges, She had on a couple of Pullovers underneath a Dark blue wrap around apron with little red dots on it tied at the waist which went well down below her knees where she had Rolled down dark tan Nylons resting on a pair of Gray Woolen socks which were snugly encompassed buy very wide Large Men’s Shoes, Mary Bridget Mc Carty salt of the Earth and sadly the Last of her Generation. she would roll in her Grave if she had know that her decedent’s would have turned out they way they did. If you look for Love in a City and her People you will find it in enormity if you look for Bad in a City you will find it also, but the outcome of your search will say more about you than the Results of your search.

Old’un
Thats not fair. Almost everybody at some stage in their lives has had a bad experience, be it the victim of robbery or assault, but most of us have the chance to get up and get on with our lives. Just look at what Steve Collins and his family have been through? He doesn’t castigate the entire population of Limerick because of his misfortune.
There is no doubt that we have an ongoing problem with scum-bags. That is a national problem, and it’s not just confined to Limerick.
Sorry to hear about your bad experience in Limerick, I hope you get over it by the time you reach sixty five!

I never said this type of stuff is confined to Limerick, but O’ Connell and William St seem to have more than its share. Indeed, the village I live in at the moment has similar problems, as have the surrounding towns.
No, I didn’t go to Limerick to look for ‘bad’, the very opposite was the case. It was a big day in my life because I was invited to the City to arrange the launch of a book, and associated interviews, etc.
As a result of what I described above, sadly, neither happened.

Maybe I’m prejudiced, but I honestly feel much safer amongst my own in Limerick, than say Dublin or Cork.
Not to say I’m a snob, but there’s definitely a much bigger contingent of knackers in Dublin and Cork. Bound to be the case what with a bigger population I suppose.
And I don’t mind smelly tacky wearing knackers, it’s the total no hopers I’m referring to. The Luas can be a disaster after a certain hour. I just don’t see that in Limerick. Never have.

As per No 8, no chip on shoulder either.. but there is definitely still a bias against Limerick out there. People from other parts of the country openly say they won’t come here.

I fail to see how you wouldn’t think Limerick was a great spot.
I’ve spoken to out of town visitors on plenty of occasions and they’ve all been surprisingly impressed – with the nightlife, architecture etc. It’s like they were expecting some sort of shithole.. I wonder why.

Good riddance to the two scumbags. They are not representative of anyone here.

Old ‘Un : “Limerick City is a dirty, violent kip, full of drunks, junkies, beggars, teeming with scumbags of all sorts, plus a myriad of home-grown and foreign knackers.”

But you’re not singling it out.

There is no indepth reporting anymore because the resources aren’t there for any decent investigative or indepth reporting.

Dublin is far more violent than Limerick and probably always was, even at the height of the McCarthy-Dundon regieme.

The difference is that Limerick doesn’t have a “scene” or enough socialite gatherings featuring the likes of Dr Keen and the RTE annoited to take the edge off things. If Donald Trump was hosting candlelight suppers on the Ennis Road, the cities reputation in the newspapers would skyrockets, even though the city would have objectively gotten rougher.

There is no indepth reporting anymore because the resources aren’t there for any decent investigative or indepth reporting.

I hear this excuse, but where did the money go? Do newspapers cost more now that they did 40 years ago?

The question I have been asking all week is how were they allowed to get the grip they had for 15 years ?

Where were the good people of Limerick ?

Where was Willie and other Limerick Politicians who were being paid to keep them in check ?

All it takes for evil to thrive is for good men to do nothing, and they all did.

Takes a watershed for anything to happen in his country, couple of innocent people killed and action is taken, what about all the others they killed and got away with.

LabRat, I can answer your questions;

(1) They were allowed to get a grip because of our relaxed outdated laws and the courts tolerance of criminality in this country. They were allowed to get a grip because An Garda Siochana and the state failed in it’s duty to protect us. It’s all well and good now that a lot of them are locked up but it came at huge expense in the form of the desecration of the good name of Limerick and the loss of numerous lives.

(2) The good people of Limerick in fairness were in a no win position. Stand up against these people and face the consequences and the state wouldn’t back you in any shape or form. It was only after the mass protests that people rallied together. Safety in numbers as the saying goes. The people of Limerick knew that the guards, politicians were doing fuck all for them at the time so to stand up against this lot was basicly lining you and your family up for a life of intimidation, threat and possibly serious injury or even death as some families sadly found out.

(3) Where were the politicians? Nowhere to be seen as usual. At the time there was too much money to be made in the economic boom to be worrying about what was going in in Limerick city. Plus Fianna Fail….. Well since when did they ever put the needs of the citizens ahead of their own needs. What was going on in Limerick was just a minor distraction to Fianna Fail’s agenda at the time which was making money.

1904, THE BEGINNING OF THE SLANDERING OF LIMERICK.

The Jewish loansharks were even disowned by their fellow Jews & had to open their own synogouge in Calooney Street (Wolf Tone St). But why did Fr Creagh pick on the Jewish loansharks? There were lots of Catholic loansharks & pawnoffices all over the city!

If you have never heard of Bertha Pappenheim, you will be ignorant of the amount of prostitution being run by Orthodox Jews from Russia etc. Where ever you found Jews, you found Prostitutes. (Google: Sleeping Beauties, A Photo Essay of Prostitution in Tel Aviv – it will blow your mind.

Back to the Jewish loansharks. Men in 1904 had a terrible drink problem & it was the same all over the country. Mothers borrowed money from the Jewish loansharks, behind their husbands backs, to feed the children.

I had a theory, so I asked an old Redemptorist priest, “Was it a fact that when the women couldn’t come up with the money, they had to “open their legs” for the Jew loansharks? Yes! He said. When he was a young cleric, that was what was talked about the older priests & of course the “Seal of the Confession”, wouldn’t allow Fr. Creagh to say what he was hearing in the Confession box.

Google: White Slavery in Israel.

It will show you that the decendants of the old Orthodox Jews, are bring thousands of women into Israel, under the pretence of good jobs.

Limerick has been hated by Jews, since 1904, because they were “kicked out” & because these Jews change their names, you never realize who the f–k is writing about Limerick. Remember Lee J Cobb the actor? Lee Jacob. Kirk Douglas? Born Issur Danielovitch, Russian

Here are a list of many Hollywood actors and their real Jewish names . . .

Joey Adams ………………………….. Joseph Abramowitz

Eddie Albert …………………………… Eddie Heimberger

Woody Allen…………………………… Allen Konigsberg

Lauren Bacall ………………………… Joan Perske

Jack Benny ……………………………. Benny Kubelsky

Milton Berle ……………………………. Milton Berlinger

Ernest Borgnine ……………………… Effron Borgnine

George Burns ………………………… Nathan Birnbaum

Joan Blondell………………………….. Rosebud Blustein

Joyce Brothers ………………………. Joyce Bauer

Mel Brooks ……………………………. Melvin Kaminsky

Joey Bishop ………………………….. Joey Gottlieb

Charles Bronson ……………………. Charles Buchinsky

Rona Barrett ………………………….. Rona Burnstein

Cyd Chrisse …………………………… Tula Finklea

Tony Curtis ……………………………. Bernie Schwartz (daughter is Jamie Lee Curtis)

Joan Crawford ……………………….. Lucille Le Sueur

Dyan Cannon …………………………. Samile Friesen

Kirk Douglas ………………………….. Isadore Demsky (son is Michael Douglas)

Bob Dylan ……………………………… Robert Zimmerman

Rodney Dangerfield ……………….. Jacob Cohen

Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. …………….. Douglas Ullman

Joel Grey ………………………………. Joel Katz (father of Jennifer Grey)

Elliott Gould …………………………… Elliott Goldstein

Zsa Zsa Gabor ………………………. Sara Gabor

John Garfield ………………………… Jules Garfinkle

Judy Garland …………………………. Frances Gumm

Paulette Goddard …………………… Paulette Levy

Eydie Gorme…………………………… Edith Gormezano

Cary Grant …………………………….. Larry Leach

Lorne Green ………………………….. Chaim Leibowiz

Judy Holliday …………………………. Judith Tuvin

Leslie Howard ………………………… Leslie Stainer

Buddy Hackett ……………………….. Leonard Hacker

Jill St. John …………………………… Jill Oppenheim

Danny Kaye…………………………… David Kominsky

Alan King ………………………………. Irwin Kniberg

Larry King……………………………… Larry Zeiger

Tina Louise……………………………. Tina Blacker

Ann Landers…………………………… Esther Friedman (Abigail Van Buren is her sister.)

Dorothy Lamour …………………….. Dorothy Kaumeyer

Miehael Landon …………………….. Mike Orowitz

Steve Lawrence …………………….. Sidney Leibowitz

Hal Linden……………………………… Hal Lipsh**z

Jerry Lewis …………………………… Joseph Levitch

Karl Maiden …………………………… Maiden Sekulovitch

Paul Muni ……………………………… Muni Weisenfreund

Ethel Merman ……………………….. Ethel Zimmerman

Jan Murray …………………………… Murray Janofsky

Walter Matthau ……………………… Walter Matasschanskayasky

Lilly Palmer …………………………… Maria Peiser

Jan Pierce…………………………….. Pincus Perelmuth

Roberta Peters………………………..Roberta Peterman

Eleanor Parker……………………….. Ellen Friedlob

Joan Rlvers …………………………. Joan Molinsky

Tony Randall ……………………….. Sidney Rosenberg

Edward G. Robinson ……………… Emanuel Goldenberg

Dinah Shore …………………………. Francis Rose Shore

Shelly Winters ………………………. Shirley Schrift

Winona Ryder………………… Laura Horowitz

Gene Wilder…………………………. Jerome Silberman

Hi bock. Long time reader, first time comment. Agree totally about media painting Limerick in an unfair light. I was shopping in Clondalkin in 2003 when there were two checkout girls talking about holidaying in the west of Ireland. One girl said she “wouldn’t feel safe travelling through Limerick county let alone visit there”. She said she felt safer in Dublin!!! I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. If you don’t mind me saying so you seem to have attracted an Irish member of stormfront to this site (the guy above me)!

All it would take is a trained fearless assassin even if perhaps a morally ‘correct’ psychopath or someone who’s been there/affected by these issues to stop them cold in their tracks.A vigilante in essence, to put some serious ‘holes’ in these entirely fragile organisations, we aren’t talking about sophisticated mafia type structures let alone a sworn in IRA style oaths or cell structured systems. It’s just plain everyone knows everyone and all don’t react upon the fear. The Gardai are all country bai’s with great reps played GAA and have absolutely choir boy records with hardly any coming from rough areas who’d have determination to stop this bullshit.
The head of the snake has not been fully chopped off yet. People have the feeling it’s almost been achieved but it can and most likely will grow back. I’d have more confidence in a more clandestine approach, in fact I know it would work. Whom would go out of their way to do such a thing like many other countries have done so for decades you may ask………I know a few ex-pats that would and would they easily blend in – for sure. Been putting holes in bean cans from 100 yards with .303s since 8 years of age. Funny thing about it is those ‘lads’ would probably be targeted with all systems go by the cops with huge manhunts as they pose no threat to them or their families. With some slight intel and ‘ignorance’ its easily arranged.
Half of these fucks haven’t fired more than a clip in their lives and in a lot of cases never even handled let alone used a weapon till the day they took out innocents with a spray and pray job. The ones that have used weapons are total amateurs and used remote bogs to practice…..100m maybe 200m would do. No thank you wanted or needed karma does the rest. Intel and financial support till job is done would be the main issue.

Artemis, I’ve formed a clear structure there to anyone whom hasn’t grown up wearing a tracksuit and lived on a diet of tayto sandwiches and coke, or are you a foreigner? Or better yet a 18 year old with no fucking clue what a .303 entitles?

Hey there. If you want to cover the costs of this site, that’s fine. If you want to take whatever legal hits that occur, even better.

Send me a firm offer and you can say whatever you like. Until then, stop advocating violence. I mean it. If you want to suggest these things, do so on a website owned and operated by yourself.

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