Sep 272014
 

News report 2014.

Girl who misbehaved at school is slapped across the face by her father and later beaten with a belt.

Mother routinely beats children with wooden spoon.

Mother “not talking to” child because of previous misbehaviour.

This behaviour is quite rightly treated as unacceptable by the authorities and all the children have been temporarily moved into protective custody while the parents come to terms with their “issues”, even though, personally, I have great difficulty understanding what these issues might be and how any grown man could possibly raise his hand to a child, much less use a weapon such as a belt.

But still, since the judge who heard the case knows more about the details than I do, it makes sense to defer to her assessment that the parents were honourable and doing their best.  Honourable is not the first word that would spring to my mind.  I don’t like it, and my first unthinking instinct is to punch this man in the face, but of course, that would simply perpetuate his stupid belief that violence is the answer, even though he probably would not regard hitting a child as violence.

The mother is so emotionally atrophied that she lacks the ability to deal with this little girl and instead freezes the child out in a despicably callous manner.  She tells the court that she doesn’t believe half of the things the little girl claims.

Let me say this.  The father is a prick, an authoritarian wanker with no respect for his children, and when he grows old  he’ll experience the obverse of that as a man whose adult children have no respect for him.

The mother is a disgrace who abused her children physically and emotionally and also failed to protect them.

That’s how we see things today in 2014.

 

News report 1974

Girl who misbehaved at school is slapped across the face by her father and later beaten with a belt.

Mother routinely beats children with wooden spoon.

Mother “not talking to” child because of previous misbehaviour.

 

 

Authorities take no action.  Schools don’t intervene.  The end.

 

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Irish Times article

 

 

 

 

 

 

  20 Responses to “Children Taken Into Care After Beating With Belt”

Comments (20)
  1.  

    It never makes any sense to defer to anyone else’s assessment in my opinion.
    The judge may have more facts, and still be wrong in her assessment.

    Honourable is also a word I would not use to describe a parent using physical violence to discipline a child.
    Ignorant, but possibly doing the best they can, would be more appropriate.

    There definitely should be more education in school on child rearing.
    Free contraception and abortion should also be available.
    It would be money spent wisely.
    These people are probably not suited to being parents.

  2.  

    Bock,

    When I was little, corporal punishment was normal and I was punished for various misdemeanors by strap and cane and hand. There was nothing unusual about it then and I never imagined that I was being assaulted especially when I could understand why it was happening.

    Today, I am glad and thankful of the disciplining even though I did not like it at the time.

    Coming from the garbage media, it is hard to assess if there was indeed anything EXCESSIVE, so I suppose that such decision about what is inappropriate is up to the courts with whatever established facts are before them now, but looking at the thing offhand I would hardly give it a second thought.

  3.  

    Why am I not surprised that you find it acceptable to beat small people?

  4.  

    When I was at school caning was normal. I hated it, especially for things like getting sums wrong and too many grammatical mistakes in English compositions. I thought it was normal for schoolkids to be beaten, with canes and straps. In the Beano and Dandy comics it was common to see fathers beat sons with slippers and to see irate teachers use the cane. We never saw cartoon pictures of girls being beaten. Bunty and other girls’ comics usually portrayed punishments like detention and writing lines. The Billy Bunter books for boys I read in my early teens also had a number of whacking scenes described in words rather than illustrations.

    Today it is a very different world, with some democracies like Sweden having outlawed parental physical chastisement of children completely. Rousseau said that humanity is naturally good but that as children grow into adulthood they are often corrupted by evil people. Wordsworth and other poets took up the theme.

    I have met some individual children, mostly males, who are not only mischievous but cunningly disruptive. I’ve never raised a hand to a bad boy, but often wonder what teachers can do when other sanctions are so bureaucratically slow and ineffective. If school principals cannot exclude persistent disruptors (who are depriving other pupils of their right to a normal education) is it no wonder that so many frustrated teachers take to heavy drinking and lose their zest for being professional educators?

    Fathers who slap their daughters and later belt them are not only inflicting pain but may be causing long term psychological fear of males in their daughters.

  5.  

    Bock,

    You seem to think that toleration is enlightenment.
    I will tell you that it is nearer to neglect and irresponsibility

    Nobody likes corporal punishment but it is a DUTY that we of the post war generation have failed to meet for our children. We have failed them.

    (I do not include excessive corporal punishment).

  6.  

    Did you beat your own children?

  7.  

    We had no children, but I would have and I would have approved it of any school. So here I am silenced for criticizing others for any failure of duty as I was never put to the test myself.

    Ben R, above gives an accurate telling account that rings with me.
    I agree with corporal punishment being very sparing on girls by their fathers.
    It was indeed more a application for boys.

  8.  

    That would explain your lack of empathy for children then.

    Would you correct an adult by hitting them?

  9.  

    Growing up in England of the 1960s and 1970s, when corporal punishment was routine, it became obvious that it had no efficacy as a way of changing behaviour – the same people were being beaten week in and week out – but what also became clear is that certain staff derived satisfaction from the use of violence, it was a display of power and dominance.

    SInce those days, I have always been suspicious of those who advocate violence against children, which is what corporal punishment is. I would be worried by a judge who needs to reflect on “issues” raised by violence.

  10.  

    I believe in the use of capital punishment for certain crimes — really only first degree murder and I believe in the use of flogging, (moderated) for certain kinds of crimes of violence.(including sexual violence against children and also rape).

    I said it before, there is nothing so cruel in its final outcome as the toleration of evil.
    Corporal punishment is an office, not an indulgence.

    In the Army, (of bygone years), adults often were corrected by hitting them and worse but if it happens now it can be an assault case.

  11.  

    That’s not what I asked you. Would you personally correct another adult by hitting them?

  12.  

    Yes. If I am given AUTHORITY to administer corporal punishment to a person, adult or child I will rise to the occassion and I will do it by the precribed method.

    If I am allowed to strap a child, I will do it. If I am allowed to strike an adult with a wooden batton in the manner of a French Legion Drillmaster, I will do it.

    To repeat, corporal punishment is a discipline not an indulgence.

  13.  

    Wow, we are quite the sadist aren’t we Iap?
    I still think you’re trolling, but I have no doubt you’re a bit of a warped individual all the same.

    But anyway, you won’t be given any authority, so you won’t be hitting any adults, unless you fancy a few thumps back for the bother.

    Back to Deuteronomy with you now.

  14.  

    Wow, we are quite the sadist aren’t we Iap?
    I still think you’re trolling, but I have no doubt you’re a bit of a warped individual all the same.

    But anyway, you won’t be given any authority, so you won’t be hitting anyone, unless you fancy a few thumps back for the bother.

    Back to Deuteronomy with you now.

  15.  

    Well aren’t we lucky you have no authority then, or you’d be walking on us. Would you dress up in a fancy outfit while administering the punishment? A Batman costume perhaps.

  16.  

    I would adhere to protocol.

  17.  

    hahaha.
    Thou art a troll of biblical proportions Iap.

  18.  

    Here –

  19.  

    Oh Dear,
    I think that I frightened poor Artemis with my post in (12) as it seems that his nerves made him accidentally
    double-click and repeat his post (13) and (14).
    I tell you, Artemis, that if I was given authority over you there would none of this nervous nonsense and you would call me SIR !

  20.  

    And I suppose you’d expect me to keep a straight face too.
    Yes sirry. haha

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