Money Given to Anglo Bank Is Gone For Good

Working for the Clampdown

How do you feel about the fact that your money is being used to bail out a criminal conspiracy?

22 billion of your money wil never be seen again, according to the chief executive of Anglo-Irish bank, Mike Aynsley.

Let me put that a different way.

Twenty two thousand million euros.

€22,000,000,000.

That’s how much of your money is being poured into the criminal abyss of Anglo and neither you, nor I, nor the government will ever see a single penny of that money again.

Not one cent.

How do you feel about that?  How do you feel about the fact that twenty-two thousand million euros would guarantee this country a comprehensive health service and an education system second to none in the entire world?

You wouldn’t mind spending the rest of your life paying for such a wonderful thing, would you?  I know I wouldn’t.

On the other hand, how do you feel about the fact that your money — twenty-two thousand million euros — is not being used to build a health service and an education system, but instead is being used to fill the financial hole caused by one or two or three fucking crooks?

How do you feel about working for the rest of your life to pay that bill?  How do you feel about the fact that your children will end up working in a foreign country if they’re lucky, because a very small bunch of crooks and a few government ministers had their hands in the till?

Eh?

How do you feel about that?

Cowen doesn’t seem to mind.  Cowen has no problem paying for the screw-ups of crooks, and he has no objection to bailing out the high-risk gamblers who invested in this criminal bank.

Lucky old investors.  I wish I had a no-lose bookie-shop, don’t you?

How do you feel about using your children’s future to bail out a bookie?

I bet you feel great about that,  just as I do.

Thanks Brian.  And thanks Brian.

27 thoughts on “Money Given to Anglo Bank Is Gone For Good

  1. Todays Irish Times

    The Taoiseach said Government borrowing was about reducing exposure to taxpayers as much as possible.

    He vowed the billions of euro in public money poured into both Bank of Ireland and Allied Irish Bank would be reclaimed.

    “Money will be made back on those investments. Anglo Irish bank is in a totally different category. That money is not going to be returned.”

    Why are they ” in a totally different category?” Cowen you lying cuntfuck, and as such, how the fuck is it considered an investment?

  2. I actually sometimes wish I was self employed again and refuse outright to make any tax returns on the basis that they would be used to finance criminality. Fuck em, there could be a case there.

  3. €22,000,000,000.

    Bye Bye.

    Here’s a little ditty from U2 that sums it all up.

  4. “Fuck em, there could be a case there.”

    They will put you in prison and claim milage.

  5. “Is there any hope for us?”

    No.

    Fuck hope.

    What do you want O’Bama?

    Hopey McChange?

  6. €22,000,000,000.

    Bye Bye.

    Here’s a little ditty from U2 that sums it all up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O7zZDNBKks

    Wake up.

    You’re already living in a Fascist state.

    It’s just that they’re not close enough to you yet that you can smell the breath of evil.

    Brian Cowen does not work for Ireland (or you).

    Brian Lenihan does not work for Ireland (or you).

    The only political framework in which €50,000,000,000 could be taken from a country of this size is Fascism.

    It is the merger of State & Corporate Power.

    Don’t let the fact that they’re not wearing brown shirts or shiny boots deceive you.

    Benito Mussolini

    “Democracy is beautiful in theory; in practice it is a fallacy“

    No need for three outstanding by-elections then?

    Benito Mussolini

    “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.”

    Anybody who disagrees with the State giving the Corporations €50,000,000,000 is an enemy of the State and the Corporation and will be dealt with in a manner that the State and the Corporation sees fit.

    Benito Mussolini

    “The keystone of the Fascist doctrine is its conception of the State, of its essence, its functions, and its aims. For Fascism the State is absolute, individuals and groups relative.”

    If Brian Lenihan had explained the theft of €50,000,000,000 from the Irish people in such succinct language perhaps he would have more popular support.

    After all, how could one place the relative need of individuals and community above the need of the State and the Corporation?

    Only a village idiot could question the benefit of giving €50,000,000,000 to the Corporation.

    Of course, none of this is possible without a lie.

    It is a lie that Anglo Irish Bank had to be guaranteed.

    The Governor of the Central Bank knows it is and was a lie.

    How do lies work? How does Fascism work?

    Who better than the master of lies to explain.

    Joseph Goebbels

    “Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”

    Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf

    “All this was inspired by the principle–which is quite true within itself–that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie”

    Is €50,000,000,000 a big enough lie?

    Was Anglo Irish Bank “systemic”?

    Joseph Goebbels

    “The English follow the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous”

    How similar Fianna Fail are to the English.

  7. I think Ireland needs to update its national anthem to something that accurately reflects the character of the nation.I suggest the rap song “Gangsta’s Paradise” by Coolio.

  8. Why could anyone be surprised by this. the figure will probably be around €40 billion when we get through all this.

  9. Of course the money is gone. A blind man on a galloping horse could have seen that! It was only a down payment. You ain’t seen nothing yet. Last one out turn off the lights.

  10. What annoys me most is how that cunt Bertie Ahern isn’t getting this shit dropped on hnim half as much as he should, the rotten, corrupt evil fucker.

  11. Sakimoto because he is a member of the Golden Circle. As such he is immune. Are you not aware that only little people pay tax, or obey white collar laws?

  12. You’re right Gary, I should know better than to question my betters, sure hasn’t it worked without it since the inception of the state! I’m off now to buy his book as a token of apology lest his feelings be hurt. haha

    In the words of the angry mob in The Holy Grail, “Burn ‘er!! Burn ‘er!!”

  13. Gary,

    you know I’ve long thought that Leona Helmsley should have got Irish citizenship, then she never would have gone to prison like she did in the States.

    FF are the Leona Helmsley party.

  14. Mark no doubt a brown paper bag would have done the job for her. However she was the “Queen of mean” .
    I should have given her credit. The Golden Circle still rule’s in this “land of Saints and Scholars” and sher
    Another few Billion between friends, paid by the lower orders , what’s the problem?

  15. There’s a stunning amount of FF haters out there now, it appears. Where were they all for the last 14 years while the gravy was bubbling. Nothing FF haS done surprises me now as I reach late middle age. They have brought havoc on the country regularly in the past 70 years or so (and that’s leaving aside an unnecessary civil war initiated by their antecedents). One has to think of De Valera’s isolationism, economic war, Irish Press shenanigans, Haughey, TACA, Arms Trial, economic irresponsibility in the 1980s etc etc. We are reaping our harvest.

  16. Unstranger I am not quite sure what you meant. However “serious shit” does not cover the situation. Ireland is in hock to the fourth and fifth generation. An Poll Doracha I have known what F.F. are for as long as I can remember and I am not a child either. Regrettably the electorate appear more interested in having potholes filled and an “official” presence at their Grandfathers funeral than they are in the economy.

  17. An PD

    I have long known what corrupt scum FF are, which is why I have gone out of my way to vote anyone but FF, especially Bertie.

  18. A few years ago, I had the good fortune to talk to a man in a pub about politics.

    At that time, I had listened to my father’s ongoing tirades against Fianna Fail, most of which had to do with his experience that they were corrupt and unrepentant crooks the like of which could ruin him and his family.

    So I talked to this man, and I discovered he was an FF supporter. I asked him why, and mentioned my father’s opinion in an offhand way. I will remember his response forever:

    “I know full well that the money’s crooked because I was thrown out of the party for asking too many questions, but I’ve voted Fianna Fail all my life and I’m not changing now.”

    That is Ireland today, gentlemen; wilfully ignorant sheep, ruled by the uncaring elite for the benefit of their friends. I’ve long since lost hope of it being saved and turned into a country worth fighting for – and yes, I realise that’s a pretty awful thing to say about one’s homeland.

    This isn’t our debt to pay. It never was. I think a lot of people feel they shouldn’t have it fall on them simply out of a sense of duty to stay in Ireland and tough it out. The smart ones with resources are leaving now, and probably not coming back for at least a decade or two. After this announcement, I won’t be surprised to see emigration rise even further.

  19. As Claire rightly says, it isn’t our debt to pay.

    So this shit can get serious in two ways. Either we

    a) accept and try to pay off the private bed debt foisted upon us and destroy this country’s economy and paltry social safety nets for a generation or two, starting with a likely sovereign debt crisis

    OR

    b) We refuse to pay. We bring down this government. We only elect those who promise to renage on debt that we never voted or asked for. i.e. any bonds that were issued to prop up bankrupt financial parasites should be considered non-repayable. We won’t be the first and we won’t be the last to do this.

  20. @Pope

    Unfortunately, a lot of people are taking option (c) and emigrating. Hence my earlier point.

    Much as I’d like to see the Dáil disbanded and the entire Irish political system reformed, it doesn’t seem to be feasible in any way while the ignorant continue to re-elect the corrupt – so realistically, this debt is being foisted on the Irish people regardless of how any of us feel about it. For a lot of people, the choice is between staying and trying to make a life while carrying the burden of this ridiculous debt, or taking their chances and starting over in another country.

    That’s the reality of it. When the country is broken, and the people who broke it are still in power and can’t seem to be shifted, and a chunk of the population is STILL willing to keep them in power in defiance of all sense and reason, running away looks less cowardly and more sensible.

  21. Speaking as a second-time emigrant (never to return, I might add – truly a case of ‘once bitten …’), I honestly think that FF and its ilk has always favoured emigration as an option, as only the compliant and/or the ones who have something to gain from the ‘parish-pump’ approach to running the country are left ….

  22. @Claire & Tony S

    Agreed, emigration is the most attractive option for those not on the insider track, especially for those with children. The implicit policy assumption made by a those that propose debt slavery (FF/FG/Greens, probably Labour) as a viable way of life, is that people should be forced to emigrate in sufficient numbers to keep the unemployment rate ‘manageable’. All to maintain the fiction of un-repayable debt.

    However, there is a consensus developing, throughout the EU, to shrink economies by obsessing about deficit reduction. This even in the face of many voices in ‘the market’ who belatedly recognise how such a policy will lead to stagnation if not outright depression. I suspect it will be harder for those who go in their new countries than it would have been a few years earlier.

    What’s sad is that we’re replaying the old history of loss of talent and energy, with those with ‘get up and go’, getting up and going. I’d like to believe there was an alternative.

  23. For all you loyal FG followers, meet your leader below, this is after I sent the above mail.

    From: , Pete r
    Sent: 15 July 2008 13:34
    To: ‘enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie’
    Subject: Questions, Part 1

    Enda,

    Any answers for me, I understand there were a lot of varied questions so time isn’t of the essence, but if you could acknowledge receipt and possibly an idea of when I’ll be able to dissect or bask in your views. I have a backlog of queries I’m looking to hit Dempsey and Harney with and would like to get this going as soon as possible.

    Regards,

    Peter

    From: enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie [mailto:enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie]
    Sent: 15 July 2008 16:22
    To: , Pete r
    Subject: Re: Questions, Part 1

    Have not read these yet but will as soon as I do.

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    13.)

    From: , Pete r
    Sent: 15 July 2008 16:45
    To: ‘enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie’
    Subject: RE: Questions

    Enda,

    There was me thinking I had your full attention, but an honest thought out answer is still an answer, no matter how long it may take.

    I was reading last night and came across a nice extract that I’m sure needs to be dedicated to Bartholomew Ahern, it was in relation to short term memory loss through the use of narcotics and so on, its claimed that marijuana smokers who would normally be deemed to have no short term memory actually have a more acute long term memory, their short term memory is not lost but merely relocated to ensure their long term aims aren’t lost. My thinking behind this would be Bartholomews neglect for fact when being quizzed about his ill-gotten gains; he was given the room as his theatre and played everyone and anyone with his mind numbing forgetfulness but in truth he knew the answer to every question.

    Extract:

    When the virtuoso performer abandons his calculated intents, the result is not nonsense but often his finest work. If that be the case then “Forgetfulness is the catalytic germ of spontaneous creativity.”

    Howard Marks- Señor Nice

    I’m not claiming Bartholomew is or was a pot smoker, but the man had an agenda and training before entering the tribunal but abandoned it when his performance became more believable or truth be known became less challenged, so instead of answering factually, he created what he though plausible because he knew that what he had done had been buried so deep by his co-conspirators that he couldn’t be caught without many important people taking the fall, and as we all know that if you have enough money you can make even the biggest problem disappear. I’m sure in your teaching capacity you would have seen the same characteristics in a child who didn’t do their homework, if you look them in the eye then they can’t lie to you, if you give them the room they can lie all day.

    Regards,

    Peter

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    14.)

    From: , Pete r
    Sent: 17 July 2008 12:45
    To: ‘enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie’
    Subject: Questions

    Enda,

    How are we looking on my answers, it’s been a couple of days now and I’m off tomorrow and Monday so I’d like to know where I stand with your views. Have you even looked at them yet or do we need to go back to the old ways again?

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    15.)

    From: , Pete r
    Sent: 22 July 2008 11:49
    To: ‘enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie’
    Subject: Don’t Bother

    Enda,

    Again you’ve let yourself and your party down, over a week to answer 21 questions and you still haven’t done anything. Well at least now I know my original opinion was spot on. It must be difficult to fill 11 weeks holidays with people asking you questions about the running of the country when you’re planning on taking your bucket and spade to Westport or wherever it is you people slither off to. I nearly thought you had something, a glimmer of hope, but I’m sure if you were man enough to question yourself you’d ask why you couldn’t provide any valid answers to questions you asked me to provide you with. Don’t bother responding because your timing is more insulting than your inability to provide a valid conclusion, I’ll revert to my usual approach and direct any questions to my mailing list as this is the only way to get you people off your over paid arses.

    Your actions reflect your party; both are irrational, untrustworthy and unaccountable.

    From: enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie [mailto:enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie]
    Sent: 22 July 2008 12:58
    To: , Pete r
    Subject: Re: Don’t Bother

    Patience. Moses struck the rock twice before water poured forth.

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    16.)

    From: , Pete r
    Sent: 22 July 2008 13:20
    To: ‘enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie’
    Subject: RE: Don’t Bother

    Patience Enda,

    Patience is FG sitting in the nose bleeds for more years than they care to remember and never reaching the goals they promised the electorate. And why you might ask? Because their attitude and aptitude towards the average man and woman on the street is substandard to say the least. How it’s taken you over a week to answer is beyond me, these should have been questions you and your party brought to the government while apparently opposing them over the years, but to think the leader of the FG party hasn’t got 1 valid answer is nonsensical. Moses was a fictional character, and if you believe a man can draw water from banging 2 stones together you’re not really showing much of a grasp on reality Enda, religion has no place in politics, you need only ask the Yanks about that, who so happily kill for the good of God. I do think if you’re going to quote, at least quote reality.

    To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.

    ?????

    All warfare is based on deception.

    Sun Tzu

    Regards,

    Peter

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    17.)

    From: , Pete r
    Sent: 23 July 2008 15:51
    To: ‘enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie’
    Subject: You’ve failed your test miserably, and I’m afraid there’s no resitting this one

    Enda,

    I’ve finally worked it out, the guy (spin doctor) who answers all your questions for you must be on 11 weeks holidays too, maybe he’s resigned for a more promising and productive role in stamp licking. You really have show yourself to be inept at your post, using religion instead of Irish is a nice change but again doesn’t really answer anything or bring you out of the mess your already in, maybe a religious poem might do it. I almost thought that someone from your office was randomly replying to the mails I sent you, never mind the legality of it if that’s the case but to think you’re the leader of this merry band of misfits is completely farcical. Do you have any answers? Do you have any courage to your convictions? Maybe your readings through the Bible again to fill me with more make believe. You’re as bad as Bruton and to be honest I don’t think I could think of a bigger insult at the moment (but for you I’ll surely try). Just to explain, the Bible was a series of books written to guide people, not to be taken literally, developed in a time when the majority of the population couldn’t read or write so instead they were told stories to help convert them to a more civilized way of life, but to think after so many years, so many sexual abuse cases, so many wealthy churches profiting off the poor, people are still quoting fictional stories to try and put their point across is crazy, its been grossly rewritten to satisfy the churches need for exclusion, has a purely sexist attitude which is best kept in the past. Tell me this, how is the Vatican State close to being the richest in the world when the churches aim is apparently helping the poor, why do they don themselves in silks and gold to speak to people in rags. It’s almost as bad as politicians claiming to be from an area they don’t visit or to have the same belief and goals as people they’ve never spoken to (Your robe is your suit). If you want to be religious than good for you, if you want to be in politics then likewise, but if you want to do both then you’re a liability because the majority of modern Ireland couldn’t give two shits about religion or politics, and that is the result of people like you, the Bandwagons.

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    18.)

    From: , Pete r
    Sent: 25 July 2008 11:48
    To: ‘enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie’
    Subject: Questions; Questions; Questions

    Enda,

    Have you crawled back under your rock now, or maybe your banging 2 of them together to see if you can get water? Where are the answers you said you’d provide on the mail sent on the 14th July? Or do I need to send all correspondences to the mailing list and let them make their own mind up as to your abilities or more so disabilities. Why not rattle Richards’s cage and see if between you both you can come up with a reasonable answer to a member of the electorate, which is something you’ve failed to do for so long now its taken as being FG policy to ignore valid questions posed to underachieving politicians. That can be your next campaign slogan. Fianna Gail- If it’s worth saying, it’s worth ignoring.

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    19.)

    From: , Pete r
    Sent: 05 August 2008 11:59
    To: ‘enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie’
    Cc: ‘richard.bruton@oireachtas.ie’
    Subject: FW: Questions? Part 1

    Enda,

    These questions will now follow you everywhere you go, every time I see you squirm through a questions and answers session, every time you spout your rubbish in the newspapers and every time you embarrass yourself on the radio claiming to represent the Irish People. You’re a disgrace and a has-been, you have no future; your party has no future because of the lack of courage and conviction shown by you and your lap dog Bruton, you’re a pathetic little man and as stated before I will do my utmost to get you and that other no hoper out of power (if sitting in a non-serving and non-acting opposition is power). You’re a sham Kenny, and the lack of response makes you a FF supporting sham, I hope you never need wonder why you’ll never see power, it’s your fault FG will never make it, you’re a stomach turning failure to the constitution and the electorate. It’s hard to reply when your heads in the sand Enda, but I’d sooner now you keep it there. I’ve decided to forward all the previous correspondences sent to and received by you to all the serving government and opposition apart from any FG member, as far as I’m concerned FG isn’t a political party of any merit and doesn’t deserve to be added to anything further as you’ll never achieve anything apart from your Gold Medal Winning Medal for ignorance and incompetence.

    Looking forward to your and your parties failings Enda,

    Peter

  24. Bock,
    Sorry for hogging the air waves, i’m 7 hours ahead in distance, not intellect.

    Peace Out,
    Peter

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